One thing that depresses me about the CF community is their incredible defensiveness, even from MM.
When .NET came out, and people started to use and understand it better, the Java community did what every CF person should be doing: they learned .NET. And then they deconstructed it. And then they asked themselves: "What can we take from .NET to make Java better" They realized that JSP was too simple, and that it didn't include enough base functionality. They realized that making custom tags in JSP was too hard. They realized that frameworks like Struts and JSF weren't perhaps the road to go down. They realized that it was too unwieldly to configure and deploy Java servers, and that it brought no real benefits the way they did it. They realized that EJBs were too hard to design, and for no good reason. They realized that in order to keep Java as a first class development platform, they had to fix these problems, and add more features as they went along. Not just one or two "cool" features that Sun would provide on high as determined by their marketing department, but real things that would matter on a day to day basis from a developer's point of view. One day, I'd like to see the CF community do that. There's a few people out there that do that, and Will's semi-rant is a vent not just at MM, but the people that use CF that seem to want to defend it to the death, and the verocity at chiding people who want to see CF change and improve. I'm curious. I wonder how many people on this list said, before CFMX came out, and before Neo was a twinkle in anyone's eye: "CF should be written in Java." I'd say no one. This is not a place for change. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Silver Sponsor - New Atlanta http://www.newatlanta.com Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:187399 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
