On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 12:43:56 -0800, Dick Applebaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks Dave, that really helps.

Cool.

> 
> As I understand it the j2ee edition is the enterprise edition

That is correct. I only keep saying "Enterprise Edition" because
Macromedia has shifted their product naming to this for the J2EE
version, so it's more a reminder to myself and to not confuse people
who read this post and then go to MM's site for more info.

> 
> But I don't want to pay for and deploy the full J2ee enterprise
> edition... I don't have a production web server, or a real web site.
> 
> But I do want to develop and distro apps as you describe: trial
> acpability, decaying into developer capability.
> 
> The intent is that the customer will be able to try my app before he
> buys it (without all the hassle of installing the component parts),'
> 
> Then when he buys my app he:
> 
> 1) deploys it on his existing CF Server
> 2) Has his host service install it on hei server instance of  their
> existing CF Server
> 3) Buys a new license key and activates the CF server in my package
> and/or installs his own server.

But 1 and 2 sound like CF is already installed in some capacity, so it
seems like sourceless deployment and a zip utility might be a good
option in those scenarios (via the cfcompile utility)? And 3 sounds
like what EAR/WAR deployment was designed for as far as a web
environment is concerned (though I think you're probably talking about
non-web setups?).

> 
> This is not the only variation on the theme, but it is a good place to
> start.
> 
> I want to drive my own and MM's (in this case) business by letting the
> potential customer "try before you buy" with the most positive
> experience I can create (no installs, service packs, configs,
> deployments, etc).
> 
> If i do this properly the customer will buy my app and,
> at the very least, he uses some of his existing CF capacity (makes him
> more likely to by add'l CF licenses, sooner);
> or better; he buys a CF license so he can run my app;
> or better, yet, hey buys the license and brags/tells all his peers
> about it (and my app)
> 

As a lurker and sometime contributor on several mailing lists, I've
definitely followed your desire to be able to run CF in a non-web
environment (i.e., off of a CD). To that end, I can't really respond
with anything helpful in your quest for this. Sorry. But as far as
licensing is concerned, it seems like Macromedia is intent on keeping
their server policies tied to web deployments for now, so I don't know
how far you're (legally) going to get.

Regards,
Dave.

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