That might even have a cascading effect as smaller folks that have chosen
another route grow larger or take influential roles in larger companies...

-----Original Message-----
From: Dick Applebaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005 6:58 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Flex

I agree with Jeff, here!

The web server market is bifurcating (can't believe I said that)!

Sure, the shared hosts  providers and server farms  will be with for us 
a while (maybe a long while), but the one-sies, the small web hosts are 
coming... (as sure as the bloggers are replacing the traditional media 
as a source for information and news.

Anyone with a $500 computer, a $19/mo DSL connection (and little more) 
can host a credible web site...  and provide as much service to their 
clientele as, say, Victoria's Secret, does to theirs.

Macromedia's server software offerings are geared to serve the larger 
customers, and I suspect they will be successful.

To the smaller, emerging shop, Macromrdia's cost of entry is way out 
there.  They can not afford it!  They will look elsewhere.

I believe this market will be served by open-source and proprietary 
software vendors with more flexible offerings:  Laszlo (God I hate 
typing that name), New Atlanta, Railo, to mention a few.

No disrespect to Macromedia intended... but if they do not supply their 
server products at affordable prices, the smaller customers will seek 
alternatives. that will.

That's the free market.

Dick




On Feb 13, 2005, at 3:01 PM, Jeff Chastain wrote:

> I appreciate the shared server availability, but some people would 
> like to
> utilize this on a dedicated server or in house.  Granted, Flex has some
> really nice capabilities, but I don't know that it is nice enough to 
> warrant
> a $14K license cost.  Macromedia is pricing it right out of my market 
> for
> sure.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005 3:32 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Flex
>
> kinda really thats what flex is :)
>  You can run flex right in with cfm, while you certainly can run it 
> with
> other languages obviously its built to run with cfm.
>  and now with cfm 7 and its included small flex engine, its really 
> already
> heading in that direction!
>  It all comes down to price and availabilty to run on shared servers, 
> once
> thats in place then look out!
>
>  Anyone notice how all these cool technologies have support for for the
> other server sides, except PHP?
>  I guess you can throw that into the cfm vs php argument
>
> ----------------------------------------
> From: Jay McEntire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005 3:17 PM
> To: CF-Talk <cf-talk@houseoffusion.com>
> Subject: Re: Flex
>
> I like flex, I think its powerful and introduces new reasons why flash 
> is
> more of an advantage then a disadvanteage. I will have to agree though 
> that
> its far to expensive for it to become real popular.
>
> If macromedia would get their heads on straight any stop adding more 
> and
> more apps for us to learn, and instead integrate their technology into 
> one
> huge mega app....now that would be awesome.
>
> MM...Lets have a CFML-FLASH-FLEX server language.
>
> Imagine....call it ColdFusion MEGA..... use cfml to build your flex 
> store,
> all your flash apps, and all your html database pages......
>
> WOOT!
>
> J
>
> On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 00:35:45 -0500, dave  wrote:
>> just ran across this, not flex but flash, remoting & cfc
>> http://www.snappmx.com
>>
>> ----------------------------------------
>> From: "dave"
>> Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2005 9:46 PM
>> To: CF-Talk
>> Subject: Re: Flex
>>
>> lol
>> as long as Will doesnt install it so that it will work, im ok with 
>> that!
>>
>> you're still mad about the girls huh! haha
>>
>> ----------------------------------------
>> From: Will Tomlinson
>> Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2005 7:49 PM
>> To: CF-Talk
>> Subject: Re: Flex
>>
>> Mike D! Install CFX_SPELL on HoF! dave is killing me here!
>>
>> :)
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
> 



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