Calvin, In a word yes. I think ColdFusion offers a better introduction to programming than PHP. Even Adobe can't go toe to toe with Microsoft in marketing CF to corporations. Macromedia always said that CF was a "bottom up" product. Well I can't think of a better way to get CF in the back door of corporations than to introduce it to thousands of college students. I refuse to believe that it will cripple them from going on to learn OOP and advanced languages. Rick Mason
On 5/4/05, Calvin Ward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Effectively, you seem to be saying that education establishments should be > teaching CF instead of PHP? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rick Mason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 10:47 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite? > > Micha, > With all due respect I wasn't advocating if you read my message that they > only learn CFML. > Most of the university students in Michigan leave knowing several > languages, of course they should know c# and java if they're to become > employable. > I remain unconvinced that learning CF first is going to somehow handicap > them in learning advanced languages. In fact I think it's just the > opposite, > > the quick productivity building useful stuff is likely to inspire them as > they learn advanced subjects. > A great many programmers of my generation first tackled the basic that IBM > shipped on the first PC XT's. Somehow using things like GoTo's didn't > prevent me from going on to learn other languages with more advanced > concepts. > I still remain convinced that CF would be a great first language in > colleges and with a little effort it could be dominant in that role. > Rick Mason > > On 5/4/05, Micha Schopman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I disagree, in the least because the job opportunities for C, C++, C# > > and Java are much and much larger than those for CF developers. > > > > Second, with C# or Java you learn to work with true OOP in a much more > > advanced environment then CF will ever be. If you for example look at > > protection levels for every action you take, it will force you to think > > about the architecture of your application in a way CF will probably > > never reach. > > > > Even then, I don't know how this is in the US, but here university level > > schools don't really focus on the programming languages, but they focus > > more on managing a software creation process, writing technical and > > functional documentation, diagrams, architectures, release management, > > and then there comes programming. > > > > It is nice if students can get a copy of CF cheaper with a school > > license, but to let schools teach CF, rather not. Every Java developer > > can program CF, not every CF programmer can do Java. > > > > Micha Schopman > > Project Manager > > > > Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort > > Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 > > KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205596 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
