exactly!

 I guess  Simon  is trying to say that if I buy a car and everytime it breaks 
down they will send someone to fix it (even from germany) and he thinks thats a 
BAD thing? I guess it would be better to take it down to jimmy joes house and 
confer with the locals about what to do with it, maybe google the problem a 
bit, maybe find a half-assed answer and then try it and if it gets messed up to 
bad cause there is really noone to back it up. Sounds good to me, guess i'm 
gunna ditch cfm and go with that cause gee it sure sounds swell 
wally.................

 But his comparison has a point. I know when I have problems with my MM stuff 
that I can call my rep and he'll come over and find me a solution thats 
actually backed by the company. And who is php backed by again?? oh yeah "we 
the people", which sounds nice but "we the people" also are the ones who send 
us viruses as well, do you know them? do you trust them? are they required to 
tell you the correct thing to do if you have a problem? or could they be 
telling something that will corrupt everything you have already done?

 If you like php thats great but like i said in last post, if you put up cfm in 
a fair fight with equal quality coders in php, asp, .net, jsp, perl, whatever, 
cfm still gets it done faster and in the end cheaper. And if you need 
additional power then you can run java in it and you have all you need, if you 
need more power in php whatcha gunna do?

~Dave the disruptor~
This bottle of lemonaid says "contains no lemon juice" 
and the can of Pledge says "contains real lemon juice"
figures @%*((&% 

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From: "Calvin Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 6:56 AM
To: CF-Talk <cf-talk@houseoffusion.com>
Subject: RE: CF vs LAMP 

I'm not so sure that the logic follows.

If you've purchased a new car, it comes with a warranty. 
Solid companies tend to honor their warranties. 
Solid companies would probably try to limit their liability with such a
warranty by delivering a product that mitigated need to honor the warranty
as much as possible by being well built. This will limit their loss
(reduction of profit) from taking care of said issues.

Not only that, they'll take care of it because they are legally obligated
to. The cost not to honor that obligation is probably a bit higher than the
cost to do so.

And aside from all that, for me personally and I suspect a great deal many
others, there's about next to nothing that I can do under the hood of a new
BMW anyway without making matters worse, should it need some attention.

I think this thread is definitely going OT though!

- Calvin

-----Original Message-----
From: Simon Cornelius P. Umacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 6:39 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF vs LAMP

> " I have a question to you, my dear friend: Would you buy a BMW with 
> its hood welded shut?"
> yeah, what the hell would I being doing under the hood when it's built 
> by a solid company that will take care of any issues that arise.

BMW is a solid company.
A solid company will take care of any issues that arise from my product.
Therefore, I will blindly believe in anything that BMW says.
Therefore, if my car breaks down, I will wait for BMW engineers to fly from
Germany in order to fix my car.
Therefore, I'm willing to pay huge amounts of money even if I can fix a very
simple problem.
Therefore, since I will blindly believe in anything that BMW says, I will
believe that it is not BMW's fault if the car breaks down because of faulty
manufacturing.
Therefore, even if there's conclusive evidence of BMW's negligence, I will
stubbornly hold on to the belief that it is really not BMW's fault. I will
deceive myself if I have to.

Ah... non-critical thinking. If that's how you think, then may God have
mercy on your poor soul.



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