On 6/16/05, Adam Churvis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks for the feedback, Dave. Some other anti-MS folks have said the same > thing. > > How would you feel if we could get Plum working with MySQL under Mono? I > don't know how compatible it will be with Mono, but that won't matter if > there is still political resentment over Plum being built using the .NET > Framework. I'm certainly not criticizing your preferences; I'm only trying > to understand them (which I assume are similar to many other people's > preferences) so we can try to make Plum better for more people.
I'd think MySQL is important (sort of surprised to see the "Big 3" was MS-SQL, Oracle, and Access... specifically the Access choice) for anyone, not just those who don't want to run Microsoft software. And while I am a strong proponent of open source software, I don't see a reason at all to port it to Mono -- complete waste of your time and resources compared to introducing new functionality. Most pragmatic programmers focus on the getting the job done efficiently -- I know of more than one OS X convert who still uses HomeSite on a PC :) If the tool is really useful to you, a second box -- or even better yet, a Virtual PC instance, is an effective way to leverage the tool. Or in my case, I do an enormous amount of development using open source and deploying on Linux, but working on WinXP and VMWare. Some folks buy Win boxes just to play games -- seems like buying one to run a few key programs isn't a big deal. So to recap -- MySQL (and PostgreSQL) support would be great since it expands the deployment opportunities. Moving to Mono would *possibly* open things up to Mac and Linux folks on the development side, but moving to GTK+ seems like it would be a LOT of work. Maybe a quick analysis will show it isn't. I would wager that a poll would show more folks deploying on a currently unsupported db platform than developing on a currently unsupported Plum platform. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Talk" <cf-talk@houseoffusion.com> > Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 5:42 PM > Subject: Re: mach II or fusebox? > > > > Adam, I loved Plum when I was on beta but.......................... > > > > things changed and it wasn't anything plum did it was just the lack of > support for mysql (as i graduated up a notch from access) but its also built > upon .net framework and gawd 4 bid I will EVER have anything m$ on my > machines ever again! (MacTel baby!!)(on pc that is, mac office is pretty > damn nice, way nicer than pc), so thats limiting a few ppl as well and I can > only see that as becoming more prevelent in the future. But I certainly > won't turn on the "disaster magnet" aka pc just to run a framework. > > > > Personally, I would rather support Isaac or Joe for their hard work than > to use either mach II or fusebox. > > > > ~Dave the disruptor~ > > "A criminal is a person with predatory instincts who has not sufficient > capital to form a corporation." > > > > ---------------------------------------- > > From: "Adam Churvis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 7:51 AM > > To: CF-Talk <cf-talk@houseoffusion.com> > > Subject: Re: mach II or fusebox? > > > > > no, because plum is limited to ms sql and I would like something a lil > bit > > more main frain then onTap for what I will be using it for. > > > > Right now Plum supports MS SQL, Oracle 9i and above, and MS Access. We're > > going to be adding MySql and PostGreSQL in the future. > > > > We really should have launched with MySQL support from the beginning, but > it > > would have delayed the launch date significantly, so we decided to go with > > the "Big Three." It's no problem for the Plum Framework and generated code > > to handle different platforms; it's building communication support for > those > > platforms into the IDE and getting complicated functionality like DB > > synchronization to work properly with different platforms' system > catalogs, > > etc. > > > > What version of MySQL do you mainly use? We may need to support MySQL > 5.0.2 > > or higher, which is why I ask. > > > > Respectfully, > > > > Adam Phillip Churvis > > Member of Team Macromedia > > http://www.ProductivityEnhancement.com > > > > Download Plum and other cool development tools, > > and get advanced intensive Master-level training: > > > > * C# & ASP.NET for ColdFusion Developers > > * ColdFusion MX Master Class > > * Advanced Development with CFMX and SQL Server 2000 > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:209889 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
