I'm sorry, but since when was Front Page or any other WYSIWYG editor considered a
"high-level" development tool?
And by the way - I can code a site in the Fusebox style faster than you can code it
straight any day of the week. And I know the other Fusebox coders would say the same.
Don't I sound annoying right now? I'm playing. But I'm serious as well.
:)
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Reynolds, Adam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 6:16 AM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: [CF-Talk] RE: Ben Forta, I call on thee (was: What is
> Fusebox)
>
>
> I personally think it has major advantages when there is more than one of
> you working on a site. It's also extremely good when Client
> requirements are
> 'vague'. You can do very quick 'surgery' to code and affect
> changes faster.
>
> Because Fusebox breaks a page down into various files (minimum of
> 7(app_globals, app_locals, app_layout, dsp_header,dsp_footer,application,
> and index.cfm) and more likely to be at least 8 (the action), you cannot
> really use the high level web development tools (i.e. NetObject Fusion,
> Dreamweaver or say even Frontpage) effectively. You end up using
> Homesite or
> CF Studio or some other html editor.
>
> Adam
> > ----------
> > From: David E. Crawford[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: 19 September 2000 14:00
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: [CF-Talk] RE: Ben Forta, I call on thee (was: What is
> > Fusebox)
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> > Re: [CF-Talk] RE: Ben Forta, I call on thee (was: What is Fusebox)
> >
> > Yes, I believe there are people who don't like Fusebox. For various
> > reasons. If you like it, use it; if you don't like it, don't use it.
> > Not
> > every CF developer will use it, and it isn't likely to be adopted as the
> > "ALLAIRE STANDARD". It is a development methodology, not a
> silver bullet.
> > There are people who have developed applications that are fusebox-like,
> > but
> > have branched out in other directions as well. If you choose to use it,
> > and
> > stick to the standard, it will help your development and
> maintainability.
> > That does not mean however, that another methodology would not work for
> > you
> > as well. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I wonder how
> many people
> > remember when the idea of Fusebox first came up on this list, almost 3
> > years
> > ago? Or attended the first Fusebox gathering at the Users forum in Ft.
> > Collins in 1998? I personally have grown to like Fusebox more
> over time,
> > than I did when it was first suggested. But, I don't use it
> for all of my
> > development.
> >
> > DC
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: W Luke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 10:48
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [CF-Talk] RE: Ben Forta, I call on thee (was: What is
> > Fusebox)
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Mark Adams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Newsgroups: cf-talk
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 2:26 AM
> > Subject: Re: [CF-Talk] RE: Ben Forta, I call on thee (was: What is
> > Fusebox)
> >
> >
> >
> > > fusebox.org
> > > read read read :o)
> >
> > Is there *anyone* who doesn't like Fusebox!? Certainly seems
> that way..
> >
> > Will
> >
> >
> >
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