The amount of consistency is in the hands of the developer. It just is
about documenting the format.

Do you have a situation where you problem appears?

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-----Original Message-----
From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: dinsdag 16 augustus 2005 15:57
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Ajax and CFCs

Yes, but a query will have a consistent xml structure that can then be
consistently accessed by JS (think WDDX). 

I think that's what folks are after.

I'm not entirely sure why WDDX isn't being talked about more in regards
to
AJAX...

-----Original Message-----
From: Micha Schopman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 10:50 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Ajax and CFCs

What type of structured data? The only thing you need to pass is XML. A
CFML
Struct can be serialized into a XMLDocument, and the same counts for
Arrays,
Lists, Queries, etc. you name it. 

Maybe I am missing the entire idea behind your goals :)  

Micha Schopman
Project Manager

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-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: dinsdag 16 augustus 2005 15:22
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Ajax and CFCs

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thomas Chiverton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 7:28 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Ajax and CFCs
> 
> On Monday 15 August 2005 20:12, Jim Davis wrote:
> > 2) Passing structured data once you access them.
> > It's the second bit that gets confusing as hell.
> 
> It's trival to write toXML() methods on all your objects.
> MM even have a query2xml on DevNet.

People that say things are "trivial" annoy me.  ;^P

It IS trivial on the server-side - not so trivial on the client side.

Also it's trivial to write _A_ packet on the server and _A_ consumer on
the
client for that one packet... but as you build more and more one-offs it
gets less and less "trivial".

Again (and again and again) what we really need is a decent client-side
parser for common formats.  The only truly common format right now is
SOAP-based web services (although they're still flaky as hell).

IF you had such a library, completely client-side, you could instantly
(in
theory) consume web services from nearly all major server-side packages
-
most with little to now extra coding.

What we really need is a rich, client-implementable _standard_ for
transmission of structured data over HTTP.  Something that (I think)
needs
to be a little more complex than JSON but not as complex as SOAP.
Something
like WDDX could have fit well... but it seems to have withered on the
vine.

Jim Davis










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