I wasn't trying to insult you.  Sorry if that I did.  It was a lighthearted
explanation of why that will never happen, at least not in the shared
environment.  

We have several clustered CF enterprise setups.  They add a whole new level
of difficulty to management and maintenance. The additional cost in support
greatly increases the cost of provisioning above hardware and licensing.

For now VPS is as close as anyone will get to affordability and isolated
stability.  Unfortunately, I'm sure that will change once licensing catches
up.

Emmet

-----Original Message-----
From: DRE [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 10:43 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Idea for better hosting

Damn your insulting Emmett, Did you read my initial post? It would be a nice
dreamworld if people read carefully.

Have a nice day.
DRE

On 9/29/05, Snake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Yes you can.
> The "Web Edition" is a web server, thus the name. So it wont let you run
> certain other MS products such as SQL Server which require "Windows 2003
> Server std". But it cannot stop installing any 3rd party product.
>
>
> Russ
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joel Nath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 29 September 2005 08:45
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Idea for better hosting
>
> Hi,
>
> can you run CFMX on "Windows Server 2003, Web Edition"
>
> i was told you cant, that it doesnt support it ?
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Emmet McGovern [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, 29 September 2005 12:08 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Idea for better hosting
>
>
> The original post is set in some bizarre dream world. Clustering bad code
> just means bad code running on 3 servers.
>
> Let's look at the costs anyway. We'll cut corners when we can and look at
> sticky sessions on standard cf licenses too.
>
> ---WINDOWS---
> Servers x 3 $4200 - $6600
> Windows Server 2003, Standard Edition x3 $2,997
> CF Enterprise x3 $17,997
> ---------------------------
> TOTAL: $25,194 - $27,594
>
> Servers x 3 $4200 - $6600
> Windows Server 2003, Web Edition x3 $1,200
> CF Standard x3 $3,897
> ---------------------------
> TOTAL: $9,297 - $11,697
>
> ---LINUX---
> Servers x 3 $4200 - $6600
> Redhat Linux ES x3 $1,047
> CF Enterprise x3 $17,997
> ---------------------------
> TOTAL: $23,244 - $25,644
>
> Servers x 3 $4200 - $6600
> FEDORA x3 $FREE
> CF Standard x3 $3,897
> ---------------------------
> TOTAL: $8,097 - $10,497
>
>
> So you can budget for $8,097 - $27,594
>
> With 400 clients at $15-$30 a month you get $6,000 - $12,000 a month.
> I'm frickin RICH BIATCH! Lease me a BMW!
>
> except...
> Now you need a way to load balance.
> Hardware - $3000-$10000
> Software NLB - $FREE
>
> Damn... Your rack is filling up fast. $1200-2000 per month per rack.
> Holy crap! We're out of room on the switch again. $600 File replication
> shut down again. Wheres Larry the tech? - $30-$80k salary $%#&! CRC errors
> on the NLB!!! Where's Larry's brother Larry? $30-$80k yr Sally from
> Sallysellsseashells.com <http://Sallysellsseashells.com> can't get her
> mail. Support - $24-$35 yr These
> expenses are killing us. Where's Rich the sales guy? - $24k base YAY!!!
> Were growing! We need to hire some more people. $$$$$$$$
>
> Shit. I just missed the lease payment on my BMW. DAMN YOU COLDFUSION!!!!
>
>
> Takin the bus to the office (if I could afford the office), Emmet
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 



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