Well, that's part of the point. AJAX and related interface methodologies can improve the user experience and potentially create a superior interaction layer that may then result in better usage of the functionality.
AJAX can be used a functionality enabler, instead of as functionality in and of itself. - Calvin -----Original Message----- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 7:18 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Inline frames a good alternative for creating web applications? Marketability...now that's true...but I can't get my clients to use well what I build now for them, much less fancy apps based on AS, JS, AJAX, and Flash... Rick > -----Original Message----- > From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 6:12 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Inline frames a good alternative for creating web > applications? > > > I mean employability in a more broad sense than being an employee. > > If you prefer, replace employability with marketability... :) > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 5:23 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Inline frames a good alternative for creating web > applications? > > Not interested in employability as in "being an employee"... > I'm self-employed and plan to stay that way...can never be fired. > Does have its drawbacks, but for me it's the only way to go. > > Rick > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 5:03 PM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: RE: Inline frames a good alternative for creating web > > applications? > > > > > > Additionally, learning Javascript when in a web appllication world, > > can only improve your capabilities and employablity.... > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Matthew Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 3:56 PM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: RE: Inline frames a good alternative for creating web > > applications? > > > > Seems like you're doing more work trying to avoid work. > > > > - Matt Small > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 3:50 PM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: RE: Inline frames a good alternative for creating web > > applications? > > > > Thanks for the insights, Barney... > > > > Question: Can an inline frame be setup to trigger another iframe > > when some action is performed that triggers it? > > > > Not clear, I know...so...a scenario... > > > > Three iframes on a page...click on a link in first frame, second > > frame responds, and causes third frame to respond....like a chain reaction. > > If so, would this substitute for concurrency? > > > > Rick > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Barney Boisvert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 3:38 PM > > > To: CF-Talk > > > Subject: Re: Inline frames a good alternative for creating web > > > applications? > > > > > > > > > The biggest problem with using frames is concurrency. You can't > > > do more than one thing at a time (unless you have two frames, then > > > it's two things at a time), which can be very troubling. With > > > Flash and JS remoting you can perform multiple concurrent actions, > > > which is very useful. You also get the capability to pass complex > > > data fairly easily, and move a lot of your UI logic to the > > > client-side, which results in a far better user experience. > > > > > > And don't think you can use inline frames without JS. When the > > > frame loads, you have to parse out the content that you need, and > > > then rebuild the visible document with that new content. > > > > > > cheers, > > > barneyb > > > > > > On 10/27/05, Rick Faircloth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Hi, all... > > > > > > > > I've been interested in building web applications that don't > > > > require a page refresh for a few years now. First Iooked at > > > > Flash...didn't like it a few versions ago...and still don't. > > > > Don't want to work with the Flash GUI or learn ActionScript. > > > > > > > > Now, along comes AJAX...everyone's excited. But upon further > > > > examination, to use it I've got to learn Javascript and other > > > technologies > > > > about which I know virtually nothing. (And no...I don't have a > > > > market at this time that would justify the effort) > > > > > > > > My question is this...why not just use inline frames (as someone > > > > mentioned recently as their method for building applications) > > > to simulate > > > > "non-page refreshing" apps? > > > > > > > > I've used them a little, but not a lot, so I'd like some > > > > feedback on what the drawbacks are to building apps using inline > > > > frames...I > > > can stick > > > > to Cold Fusion and HTML alone...no Javascript, no > > > > Actionscript...sounds good to me. > > > > > > > > Can anyone point me to some online examples of significant > > > > inline frames usage to build apps? > > > > > > > > What am I missing? > > > > > > > > Thanks for any feedback and guidance... > > > > > > > > Rick > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Barney Boisvert > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > 360.319.6145 > > > http://www.barneyb.com/ > > > > > > Got Gmail? 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