> -----Original Message----- > From: Sean Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > RoR requires you manually generate controllers, models and scaffolding.
Given that it takes a single shell/DOS command to do this, I think its fairly productive. I don't think it'll be too long before someone writes some GUI tools for simplifying this step further. > If you want a nicely formatted page / form, you need to write it > yourself since the defaults are ugly ass tables that don't > really let you tweak them easily with CSS. That is one definite problem, even the Agile-Rails book delves fairly quickly into rewriting the default output as DIVs. > PLUM does a lot more auto-generation so it's bound to be faster and > I suspect the generated code is easier to modify visually. True, until RoR gets some (more) GUI tools it will lag in this arena. > However, my voiced concerns about scalability (of applications) in > regard to RoR also apply to PLUM. The automation in both of these > 'products' targets a specific type of data-entry application - a very > common one, granted, but still a specific problem space. Once you get > beyond that core problem space, you are back to writing code. You might like to look into SwitchTower: http://weblog.rubyonrails.com/articles/2005/10/19/introducing-switchtowe r-distributed-deployment-for-rails There are lots of sites out there that receive lots of traffic and have lots of data, e.g.: http://news.com.com/Ruby+on+Rails+chases+simplicity+in+programming/2100- 1007_3-5920169.html?tag=nefd.lede http://www.basecamphq.com/ and http://cdbaby.com/ is currently undergoing a rewrite from PHP to RoR. Having said all that, you should keep an eye on what Mike Ritchie is working on... Damien ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:225094 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54