Yep...no problem... Rick
-----Original Message----- From: Snake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 4:45 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer You develop directly on your live server !!!!!! :-O !!!!!!! Do I really need to say anything? Snake -----Original Message----- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 May 2006 00:48 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer Sounds like you got things set up well for your development without risk to your production setup. I used to develop locally, but now, since I'm developing for CF 4.5 which is all that's on the server, I just develop right on the server. I set up development sites for clients under my domain so they can view design work and test functions as I development. That way they can see progress, provide feedback on design, test functionality, and get their training on the app as I go. By the time I'm finished, they're already familiar with the app. If I setup a new version of CF, however, it definitely wouldn't be on the production server. Testing and development would be on a different server, hardware and software. I try to be as cautious as resources will allow... Rick -----Original Message----- From: Denny Valliant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 6:58 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: ASP.Net book for CF programmer > > You gotta swim at some point. > > Agreed...I'm just trying to decide what pool to swim in this time. I hear you. In a changing world, assessing what the future will bring is not as straight forward as one would wish. =-] I think it would be wise to add ASP.NET to my repertoire. > Especially if something should happen with CF, which I don't think it > will. But if it should, I could use ASP.NET for business continuity.. The only real gripe I have about ASP is it's dependence on MS. With mono you can get around that, sorta, I hear, so it's probably not too big a deal, but it bugs me how MS always has to have some "standard" that is standard only to their products. =-/ I wouldn't say I was living in fear of change, I've just gone through > enough upgrades with various products to know there are always > issues. But now that I have several server that I can test new > products on without having to touch my production server, > testing becomes less risky. For sure. A good development environment is essential to any endeavour of this nature. Really essential. That is one nice facet to the multiple instances of CF idea, you could have one server instance that is for development and one for production, so if you crash and burn the dev instance you don't get the production one (theoretically, and not always true). As for the mirroring of dev and server, for years I've been able to have a pretty close setup to what's on the production server, including a VMware install for added testing, on my laptop. Now that I've got gigs of data to copy back and forth tho, it's getting a little tedious, and I can see a future where it's impossible to have the same setup as on the server, locally. Thus, a real interest in test cases and small amounts of data. Still just getting my bearings, but I can see the usefulness. So far what's working good is a production server, a dev server, and my local workstation (running more servers than the servers are ;-). So long as the dev server is real real similar to the production one, the transitions aren't too bad. Main campus adds a 4th step, a QA server, that is exactly the same as the production one, but called "quality assurance" instead. That's a smart setup. Cuts down on the need to deploy your apps in the dead of night. I gotta ask... 'leetness? What in the world does that mean? Heh. Sorry, it's sorta shorthand for elite. And where in this world is home for you? I hail from Albuquerque, New Mexico. The Land of Enchantment. [-= It's a swell town, give a shout if you're ever in the hood. :den ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:239801 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
