> I also think that while there's a decent amount of KICKING CF projects, > there needs to be WAY more, and they need to be way better publicized. Look > at the stuff that 37 Signals is doing. They're totally piggybacking on the > popularity of Rails and offering up this fantastic software that just works.
Well, since the guys at 37Signals *created* Rails, it's not a suprise they're piggybacking on it. One of their big talks is about extracting Rails (the framework) from Basecamp (the product). Hype serves them on both sides of the coin -- pushing their framework and their product(s) built on it. And as apparently will be my mission in the CF world, I'll just remind you Rails => framework Ruby => language I'd still say *ruby* is not as popular or well known as *rails* is, and that Ruby is probably comparable in popularity to CF in that it's *way* behind languages like C#, Java, and PHP. Of course *Rails* is probably one of the bigger *frameworks*, right up there with Struts. And finally, it doesn't take a *lot* of "kicking" ColdFusion sites to get it hyped -- it takes 1 popular, kicking, hyped site. There's a *lot* of Rails sites, but Basecamp is the one most folks know. CF needs a similar exemplar, but it will take the whole package of CF and a framework, etc -- the CF frameworks need a lot more work before they compare to what's hyped about Rails. Flex is far more likely to be able to generate hype IMHO. -- John Paul Ashenfelter CTO/Transitionpoint (blog) http://www.ashenfelter.com (email) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 & MX7 integration & create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269018 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4