Adobe do have a say as they are part of the foundation http://www.adobe.com/macromedia/proom/pr/2005/eclipse_flashplatform.html
Put the point of Eclipse is that others can create plugins for the platform be it free (CFE) or commercial (flexBuilder / MyEclipse) With many other companies supplying Eclipse plugins (XML SPY etc) means you have one tool environment to do all your development with out having to open many applications, making life easier in my view. -----Original Message----- From: Barney Boisvert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 May 2007 18:19 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Announcements from Ben at cfObjective I'm sorry, I wasn't very clear. Spent all weekend moving and painting, so my mind's a little shot. What I meant to say is that CFEclipse is not an Adobe controlled product. It's managed by people outside Adobe, and while they do back it, they're not in the drivers seat. Flex, on the other hand, is an Adobe product, and open source or not, Adobe is still in charge of what Flex 2.5 (or whatever is next) is. Sorry for the confusion, and thanks for all your hard work on CFE! It's still got it's bumps, but it's rockin'. cheers, barneyb On 5/6/07, Mark Drew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What do you mean un-backed? > > CFEclipse has the backing from Adobe. It isnt going anywhere. > > you could say the same about Flex since the sdk is being open sourced. > > *holds tongue as I might just start insulting people from now on* > > On 5/7/07, Barney Boisvert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Adobe has made a significant investment in the Eclipse platform for > > their development tools, however, and FlexBuilder is both an official > > Adobe product and Eclipse-based. It seems pretty obvious that that's > > the way of the future for Adobe. I'd be shocked if Photoshop was ever > > an Eclipse-based product, but where you're not the giant already, but > > can stand on the shoulders of giants....... > > > > Like it or not, Eclipse is a powerhouse in the tool arena (at least > > outside the sphere of Microsoft), and more and more offerings > > (commercial or otherwise) are leveraging that platform. If you're > > doing Java-related development (as ColdFusion is), the base tooling is > > even more powerful. For example, if you're willing to do the Java->CF > > reverse translation (which is reasonably straightforward), and willing > > to use infinite loops instead of breakpoint callouts, you can use the > > stock Eclipse JDT for debugging CF applications. Tacking on those two > > relatively trivial aspects of debugging to the existing Java debugging > > tooling in Eclipse sure seems like a no brainer compared to writing a > > debugger from scratch on the DW platform. > > > > Which isn't to say that I'm blind to the fact that they're alienating > > users of DW (their own product!) for those using Eclipse (probably > > with CFEclipse - an unbacked open source product - though FlexBuilder > > is Eclipse based and an official Adobe product), but without knowing > > what goes on behind closed doors, it seems like they've made a good > > decision. > > > > cheers, > > barneyb > > > > On 5/6/07, Andy Matthews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > While I personally use Eclipse, that's sort of a raw deal for people who > > > don't like Eclipse, or prefer another development environment. It's not as > > > if Eclipse is an official Adobe product. > > > > > -- > > Barney Boisvert > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://www.barneyb.com/ > > > > Got Gmail? I have 100 invites. > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| ColdFusion MX7 and Flex 2 Build sales & marketing dashboard RIAâs for your business. Upgrade now http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2?sdid=RVJT Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:277169 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
