GOT IT!!! i managed to fool it seeing as the + 1 wasn't working
i added an empty row into the query <cfset queryaddrow(finalQuery)> and it then had the same affect as finalQuery.recordcount+1 and it went through fine :) thanks for all your help and suggestions, this must be a bug in this component and i will def look at the other component suggested on here for enhanced flexibility thanks again ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;192386516;25150098;k Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:303476 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4