thanks for your replies, although the problem with having an empty element or 
an element saying 'Select one of the following' would cause the required="yes" 
validation not to work as they would still be valid options

is there no way to get the required="yes"  validation to work on these 
cfselect's 

> hi 
> 
> we want to have a drop down box on a form that has attribute 
> 'required' and a message that displays if no value is select when the 
> form is submitted
> 
> however, using cfselect automatically makes the first option selected, 
> but we want the user to physically select an option
> 
> how can we code it so that no option is automatically selected when 
> the page loads?
> 
> thanks 


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