> I would have to break out that hourly rate into increments

I wouldn't charge less than a full hour for any part of one.
You have to consider the time involved in responding to an "on call" service
response...wrapping up what you're working on at the moment for the break,
traveling
to whatever location, mileage, cost to taking time away from other clients,
etc.
It's most than just the time you're "on-site".

I do that with monthly maintenance on sites.  Any update to a site is a full
hour.
I encourage clients to wait and gather all their updates and send them
all-at-once.
That's less distracting and time-consuming for me and cost-effective for
them.
I put in their contract that any update, even if for just two minutes, costs
them
a full hour's rate.  If they're in a hurry and want to pay that bill,
fine...send on
the minute changes at *your* convenience.  But if they'd rather save money,
they
can save the changes until the first of the month, and get much better
value.

Some clients have more money than time...for others, it's the other way
around.
This works for both.


-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Johnson [mailto:u...@askugg.com] 
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 9:50 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Need help figuring out how to bill for on-call support I
provide to an ex-employer...


Rick, that actually sounds like what I've been banging around in my head.

My friend was thinking of an "emergency on call" rate for that reason, but
if it was a call saying the server was down and it involved a 10 minute call
to the hosting center, I would have to break out that hourly rate into
increments and it starts getting messy.

Also, for the slow months, if I rely at all on this income, I'm left needing
to make it up and a retainer keeps me open and invested in the program.
It's almost completely guaranteed it'd be using it all, but these sorts of
things don't work well when one party is assuming.

We actually deal with attorneys a good bit and a retainer should be
something that is easy to sell on its own merit.

I think I'm going to do something like:

Retainer: XXX/month (with dev time billed against half of it like you
mentioned).
Development: XX/hr
Maintenance: XXX/month

Maintenance includes a fixed cost for backups, some manual labor that needs
to be done between their dev and live servers, etc.  Menial, but any shared
hosting company charges something similar for database backups, code
backups, etc.


>For "on-call" service, I would have what most lawyers do for their
corporate
>clients...a retainer.
>
>I would set a monthly rate to have me "on-call" and then, if they did
>actually call me
>in for some work, I would charge my normal hourly rate for service and take
>the first
>half of the charges out of the retainer fee *for that month*.
>
>For instance, if I charge $50 an hour for service and they pay a retainer
of
>$200 per month
>to keep me "on-call", the first $100 or two hours of work would come from
>the retainer.
>After that it's an additional $50 per hour.
>
>Of course the retainer is paid monthly and there are no "roll-over" hours.
>Previous months'
>retainers do not apply to the current month's charges.
>
>Also, I would have different rates for "after-hours" on-call service than I
>would for 9-5 service.
>Probably double my 9-5 rate...call me at 10pm and it's $100 per hour.
>
>Seems reasonable and fair...
>
>Thoughts?
>
>Rick
> 



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