Sorry...left off some other comments previously... > Not that it's a bad product, or that it carries onerous restrictions. > And you had the same beef with CF - you argued on this very list for years > about how painful it would be to your precious wallet to upgrade.
Wrong on both accounts. I never said CF Builder carries "onerous restrictions." As was pointed out by Casey, you may be, in this case, too, attributing remarks to me that someone else made. However, I don't see where CF Builder carries any objectionable restrictions. It's a matter of value. It adds too little for the price. That's the objection. They want too much money for the product. Not that the price wouldn't be appropriate for another product. I think DW would be fine at $300 (or $400, as someone pointed out). And, I may beef with Adobe about upgrading was that they quit offering upgrades prices to those of us still using early version of CF Server. I can understand why they do it, but it doesn't mean that I like it. And, yes, $1200 is not always easy to shell out for a sole proprietor, especially when the gains from the product didn't appear to be that valuable above what I already needed the product to do. That did change with CF 8, however. I saw changes to the server that would help my work a lot...specifically with images, since virtually all the work I do involves processing images. And yes, since it's my wallet and my money that I'm spending, it precious to me. My family depends on me making wise choices with my money. I don't make enough to be oblivious to the costs of doing business. Rick -----Original Message----- From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com] Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 5:41 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: ColdFusion Builder Released! > I simply have said Adobe price CFB too high. No, you said a lot more than that. You said that it wasn't fair for Adobe to price CFB at $300, since Dreamweaver was around the same amount and that was an "original work", and that this was an incentive for you not to buy CFB even if it would make sense financially. You mentioned "this is more of a moral argument than a financial one." > I'm entitled to that advice, as you are to suggest > that Apple's control of their product "sucks"...as if that, > in a word, is not a personal opinion that Apple should change > their business plan and customers should consider carefully > before using the iPhone and supporting Apple's approach. No, that is not a personal opinion that Apple should change anything. That is a personal opinion that potential Apple customers shouldn't buy some of their products, because they restrict what you can do with them in arguably objectionable ways and because there are other products that fill the same niche pretty well. Apple should certainly not change their business plan on my account, because frankly it's a pretty good plan. Your sole beef with CFB is that it's too expensive. Not that it's a bad product, or that it carries onerous restrictions. And you had the same beef with CF - you argued on this very list for years about how painful it would be to your precious wallet to upgrade. And you're entitled, of course, to say whatever you like. Just as others are entitled to criticize your statements. And vice-versa. But again, some statements are logical, and others aren't. > No difference to me... > > Apparently, you're looking for simple distinctions that > exist only in your mind. > > Whatever, though...it's been fun, just have a great weekend, Dave! :o) Perhaps some minds are too simple to understand the distinction. That doesn't mean there isn't one, of course. You have a great weekend too. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332368 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
