thanks, although the problem is there is no error to catch. when we run a 
cfdump of the query, the sql is as follows:

SELECT viewname, categoryname FROM views LEFT OUTER JOIN viewcategories on 
views.categoryid = viewcategories.categoryid GROUP BY viewname HAVING 0 = 0 AND 
categoryname IN ("aaaa's") ORDER BY viewname ASC LIMIT 0, 300 

it just doesnt pull out the data, but if we copy it directly into mysql command 
line it works fine

we do not even know how to trace the error as how can it work in mysql command 
line but not in coldfusion? completely lost on this one!



>Wrap your actual cfquery with cftry and then cfoutput the variable cfcatch.sql
>
><cftry>
> <cfquery>...</cfquery>
>  <cfcatch 
> type="Database"><cfoutput><pre>#cfcatch.sql#</pre></cfoutput></cfcatch>
></cftry>
>
>Then post that sql here.
>
>Rick 

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