I think there's a bit of the American "NIH" syndrome in evidence, which is well known in international US owned companies, specially in technology companies. This might come as a deep shock to some of you Americans, but there are some VERY smart people OUTSIDE the USA.
I first saw this when I worked for Burroughs Corp in New Zealand in the early 1970s. We had some VERY clever programmers building some revolutionary software, that enabled us to sell mainframes worth millions against IBM, who were dominant in NZ as well as everywhere else at the time. We managed to corner the Government mainframe market back then. But even so, when it attracted the attention of the execs in the USA, they refused to believe that we could have developed software they were unable to do. The NIH syndrome struck. (Not Invented Here) The NZ subsidiary continued using the software to make sales, and it took the transfer of one of our senior guys to the USA for them to finally accept that we might have broken into a new market with something new. In the 1980s i was in another field, and we were routinely doing things my American counterparts had never thought of doing. When I would tell them what I was doing, they'd scoff, saying "it if was possible, we'd be doing it." I think the NIH is in evidence here too. We've all had pretty dismal experiences with Indian, Phillipino and Indonesian call centres, but the software industry in India is VERY advanced. There's nothing inherently better about American programmers. Just because they're American doesn't make them better. There are a whole lot more factors that need to be taken into account than nationality. Americans build some rotten software too, you know, just like everyone else. CF7 and CF8 and CF9 were all splendid releases, each better than their predecessors. I see this change as a good thing. It makes good sense to have the Product manager in daily contact with the engineering and QA teams. A two way dialogue between Product management, and Engineering is essential to good development and innovation. I suspect Adam doesnt want to uproot his whole family and move to India. He doesnt say why he's not going to India so I'm guessing, but I dont think it makes any difference. They'll find a great PM to do the job in India, either an existing employee or someone hired for the job there. Either Indian or not, I dont think it makes any difference, provided the person doing the job has the qualities needed for a good Product Manager. This'll stun Sean, so I'll put it in caps in its own paragraph: I THINK THIS IS A GOOD MOVE BY ADOBE AND WILL BE GOOD FOR COLDFUSION. Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion 9 Enterprise, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 12:39 PM, Sean Corfield <seancorfi...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 5:14 PM, Kelly <webd...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Right so Adobe isn't outsourcing. They have an office in India in which >> they probably hire Indian citizens. > > Yup, the Noida and Bangalore offices are staffed by a lot of locals > and, indeed, some Americans who have decided they'd like to go live > over there. Adobe has offices in quite a few countries, BTW... > -- > Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN > Railo Technologies, Inc. -- http://getrailo.com/ > An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:342267 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm