Russ, You are a dick.
-Adam ** I thought about that one first. On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Russ Michaels <r...@michaels.me.uk> wrote: > > Well we can't be sure that was how Adobe intended to announce it, Adam does > have a tendency to post first, think later :-) > > > On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 1:05 AM, <cft...@fusionlink.com> wrote: > > > > > Perhaps, but I think there needs to be a serious discussion about this. > > Adobe went about a weird way in announcing it and I guess hoped it > wouldn't > > get much notice as a result. This is one of the biggest decisions they > have > > made with ColdFusion in several years. > > > > John > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Russ Michaels [mailto:r...@michaels.me.uk] > > To: cf-talk@houseoffusion.com > > Sent: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 00:23:44 +0000 > > Subject: Re: Re: Change in ColdFusion management > > > > > > Painting a target on your back there John :-) > > > > Unfortunately having an opinion that is not 100% positive about CF or > Adobe > > brings out the worst Trolls who really have nothing constructive to add > and > > just get their rocks off by making rude and obnoxious comments, which is > > simply not called for and really some people should know better and be > more > > mature. > > > > I agree with your concerns and can understand where they come from, but I > > also think that perhaps you are being overly pessimistic and assuming the > > worst. I can understand why anyone would assume the worst about > outsourcing > > to India, it has a bad rep and most people who have had to deal with > > outsourced support will have been driven to tearing their hair out at > some > > point. But as has been said, this is not really outsourcing as Adobe have > > offices and staff there and have had for a long time. > > > > Your suggestions for improvements however are fair and seems like they > > would > > be beneficial regardless of whether you consider this to be FUD or not. > > > > Best of luck with the the oncoming flotsam. > > > > Russ. > > > > On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 7:53 PM, William Seiter <will...@seiter.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Got it, thanks everyone for the google cache link... must be a bad > brain > > > day monday for me.... ;) > > > > > > William > > > ---------- > > > William E. Seiter > > > > > > > > > On Feb 14, 2011, cft...@fusionlink.com wrote: > > > > > > > > > It's cached by Google.. > > > > > > > > > > > > http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:3G9LdiSkodEJ:www.adrocknaphobia.com/post.cfm/the-modern-age-of-coldfusion+http://www.adrocknaphobia.com/post.cfm/the-modern-age-of-coldfusion&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=safari&source=www.google.com > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: William Seiter [mailto:will...@seiter.com] > > > To: cf-talk@houseoffusion.com > > > Sent: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 19:08:14 +0000 (GMT) > > > Subject: Re: Change in ColdFusion management > > > > > > > > > Anyone have Adam's announcement? I keep trying to access it and get a > > > blank page. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > William > > > > > > ---------- > > > William E. Seiter > > > > > > > > > On Feb 14, 2011, cft...@fusionlink.com wrote: > > > > > > > > > In case people don't know and many may not due to the way it was > > announced > > > late last friday, there is a debate going on with the recent change in > > > Adobe's management of Coldfusion. Whether you agree with my concerns or > > not, > > > it's important that everyone get a chance to voice their opinions on > > this. > > > > > > Here a the blog posts to look at... > > > > > > Adam's announcement > > > http://www.adrocknaphobia.com/post.cfm/the-modern-age-of-coldfusion > > > > > > My reaction > > > > > > > > > http://www.codfusion.com/blog/post.cfm/so-there-s-this-story-about-a-frog-in-boiling-water > > > -there are comments that add additional problems to this move > > > > > > Brian Meloche's reaction > > > > http://www.brianmeloche.com/blog/index.cfm/2011/2/12/End-of-another-era > > > > > > John > > > ma...@fusionlink.com > > > twitter: john_mason_ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:342285 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm