Not saying the browsers aren't getting better, because they are. Updates are much more frequent.
The issue that Crockford brought up though is a valid one. It's not the browser manufacturers that are the problem, it's the users and corporate IT departments that don't/won't upgrade. It will be many, many moons before enough users are using HTML5 capable browsers before it makes it worthwhile to write desktop browser-based HTML5 applications. Even JQuery and Sencha have IE6 support in their libraries (though JQuery plugin authors often forget this). Steve 'Cutter' Blades Adobe Community Professional Adobe Certified Expert Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer ____________ http://cutterscrossing.com Co-Author "Learning Ext JS 3.2" Packt Publishing 2010 https://www.packtpub.com/learning-ext-js-3-2-for-building-dynamic-desktop-style-user-interfaces/book "The best way to predict the future is to help create it" On 11/16/2011 6:57 AM, Raymond Camden wrote: > Ah, SiteCatalyst Netaverages - but it isn't free though: > > https://netaverages.adobe.com/en-us/index.html > > > On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 5:56 AM, Raymond Camden<raymondcam...@gmail.com> > wrote: >> "Not to agree with Ray" - wait - aren't we friends? ;) >> >> I'm trying to find the Adobe site that has good browser metrics. >> Anyone remember it? >> >> On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 5:49 AM, andy matthews<li...@commadelimited.com> >> wrote: >>> Not to agree with Ray but has anyone seen Firefox's version number lately? >>> >>> They've literally gone through 3 major release "numbers" in like 3 months. >>> At the beginning of this year they were on 3. or 4. They just released v8 >>> last week. >>> >>> >>> andy >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Raymond Camden [mailto:raymondcam...@gmail.com] >>> Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 5:40 AM >>> To: cf-talk >>> Subject: Re: HTML5 Browser Support >>> >>> >>> While it is still a problem, I think it is improving rather quickly. >>> IE6 continues to decline,and the major browser vendors are spewing out >>> updates faster than ever, especially Chrome. Even MS followed up IE9 with >>> their IE10 beta rather quickly. >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 5:03 AM, Steve 'Cutter' Blades >>> <cold.fus...@cutterscrossing.com> wrote: >>>> On 11/15/2011 4:03 PM, Gerald Guido wrote: >>>>> Right now, according to my (extremely unscientific) estimates about >>>>> 40-60% of the browser market supports at least some of the HTML5 spec >>>>> (Basically everything except IE8 and below). >>>> I was lucky enough to watch Douglas Crockford give a keynote at the >>>> first Ext JS conference a few years back. He gave this awesome >>>> presentation on the future of HTML and JS, then burst everyone's >>>> bubble when he pointed out that it would be well over a decade before >>>> developer's could truly take advantage of any of it (with the >>>> exception of mobile). His reasoning was browser life cycle. Today >>>> there are developers who must continue to support IE 6 because a >>>> company (or govt) won't/can't move past it. How long do you think it >>>> will take before 85% >>>> + are up to, or past, IE 10? (sad fact: users still use MS) >>>> >>>> Steve 'Cutter' Blades >>>> Adobe Community Professional >>>> Adobe Certified Expert >>>> Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer ____________ >>>> http://cutterscrossing.com >>>> >>>> >>>> Co-Author "Learning Ext JS 3.2" Packt Publishing 2010 >>>> https://www.packtpub.com/learning-ext-js-3-2-for-building-dynamic-desk >>>> top-style-user-interfaces/book >>>> >>>> "The best way to predict the future is to help create it" >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:348752 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
