Small Community - Is a good thing in my opinion, growing at a steady rate is
good, if the growing is well thought out and thoroughly implied.

I can say this much from experience, when I first started working with CF
was in the summer of 96, it was a ~SMALL~ community!!!

btc
-----Original Message-----
From: Jon Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 4:26 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Is CF still relevant?


I dont have a problem parsing XML with CF, although no server side scripting
language like cf or asp and so on is ever going to be the best tool for
that.
Any programming language can be object oriented, it's whether or not the
language designer forces the situation as in Java's case. I can make a kick
ass OOP Basic program with goto's, who cares? You want OO on CF, check
Fusebox or cfObjects.
Lastly, Linux used to have a real tiny community too. That does not seem to
negatively affect the success of Linux today. The only thing that can be
said about a programming environment with a small community, is that is has
a small community.

Why do I use it? It works.

jon
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Grossberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 3:27 PM
Subject: Is CF still relevant?


> Now, before you dismiss this as a troll, please let me elaborate. This
isn't
> so much an instigation or a whine as it is a call for us to take a step
back
> and reevalutate things periodically.
>
> Over the course of my career as a web programmer/developer, I have worked
> with a variety of sever-side languages and technologies: ColdFusion, ASP,
> JSP, PHP, Perl and Python. I like some more than others, but I'm not an
> evangelist for any; they each have their uses. And I recognize some of
CF's
> strengths: easy to learn for people who know only tag-based HTML or don't
> have significant programming experience; built-in admin tool; specialized
> editor; comes with pre-built tags and web-based administrator. There are
> also major flaws: broken/sketchy tags; no XML parsing; not OOP; relatively
> small community; etc.
>
> Right now, I work at a web development firm that is primarily "a CF house"
> (besides me). Our more senior programmers are looking at honing their CF
> skills, while our less experienced webmasters are trying to learn
> ColdFusion. But, I can't help but wonder whether they are wasting their
> time. Would they be better off spending their time learning ASP, Java or
> another non-CF solution? Why or why not?
>
> And how would we tell if and when it was time to give up CF and try
> something else, as all but the most stubborn experts in also-ran languages
> (Ada, SmallTalk), applications (Netscape, Lotus Notes) and Operating
Systems
> (Amiga) have resignedly done?
>
> Lastly, why do *you* still use CF? Is it because it's what you're best at,
> and you don't want to try something new (where, temporarily, you'd be a
> novice again)? Is it because your ccompany's legacy code is all in CF? Is
it
> because you genuinely think that ColdFusion is, generally speaking, the
best
> solution for web application development in 2001?
>
> Joe
>
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