Yes i know they called me today its called DART its 7K to setup and 1000 a
month =) we have a program now but i want CF, and i would not have to worry
about mulptiple boxes because i have a dedicated AD box that i iwll use a
CFHTTP to grab the ads from and the program on the ad box will decide, just
curious but i will look through allt he selections.

The Doubleclick program looked nice it still did not do what i really wanted
it to do so =) i guess its time for me to hit the coding!!


Bill Wheatley
Director of Development
Allaire Certified ColdFusion Developer
AEPS INC
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jon Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 6:39 PM
Subject: Re: BANNER AD PROGRAM


> None if you dont need to worry about weighted ads or targeted ads. As long
> as the program does not need to make decisions based upon how many views
an
> ad has had, or which ad it should show now it does not matter.
> As soon as you need to know which ad to show next, rather than random ads,
> you have to be updating a counter and selecting it again on the next ad
> view, if you have two different servers, where you cant cflock the entire
> program you then have a situation where concurrent users on different
> servers are being shown the same ad then updating the counter +1 each
time,
> and you just lost a rotation...or you get each rotation but you lose an
> adview, depending on how you do your math.
> Since single threading a banner program by making the entire set of
queries
> a transaction is not an option even under moderate load, it can get a
little
> complex. I just personally dont think CF is the best solution for a high
> transaction banner system...
> Even SQL Server has problems with concurrency that make it not ideal
either.
> >From what I have seen, at least one of the big banner companies uses
Oracle
> not SQL Server... I've been thinking about rewriting the banner program in
> Java because of the whole concurrency issue. When it comes down to it, CF
> and SQL SP's are essentially stateless, so the program has to make all
it's
> decisions and updates all at once. That's a whole lot of database traffic.
>
> But then again, my statements only really apply for complex, high
> transaction banner systems, not the majority of sites out there...
> There is a guy from DoubleClick that occasionally posts here that has a
real
> nice banner program though, wonder how much. ;-)
>
> jon
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim McAtee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 5:56 PM
> Subject: Re: BANNER AD PROGRAM
>
>
> > I can understand the potential performance problems, but what kind of
> > concurrency issues do you have if you're storing all ad & campaign data
in
> a
> > central database?
> >
> > Jim
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jon Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 3:45 PM
> > Subject: Re: BANNER AD PROGRAM
> >
> >
> > > One problem you are going to run into with ANY CF banner program is
> > > performance first off, secondly is concurrency issues once you move to
> > more
> > > than one server. If all you need is a counter, positions, and a random
> ad
> > > then you are safe with just about anything, however once you move to
> > > weighted ads concurrency becomes a huge problem.
> > > I has to rewrite an entire CF banner program as a stored procedure for
> > those
> > > exact reasons. It's smooth as butter now, serving up ~300,000+
weighted
> > > banners a day on a load balanced web site. Unfortunately it's not for
> > sale,
> > > but keep these issues in mind as you look for a banner program.
> > >
> > > jon
> >
> >
> >
>
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