thanks for the responses everyone.
I'm still not sure what to do. I'm going to finish fleshing out the rest of
the model before deciding.

Adam,
What do you mean by "subtype"? Isn't that more of an OO concept.
How do you model a subtype in a relational db? This project is my first stab
at developing a database from scratch. So any advice or good design
technique articles are very much apprecitated.

thanks,
alex
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adam Phillip Churvis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 3:28 PM
Subject: Re: database modeling


> Start off by modeling entities, not tables (and remember that they _are_
> different).
>
> If they are different entities, then model them that way.  If they are two
> subtypes of the same entity, then model them as the same entity with two
> subtypes.  When the logical model is resolved into a physical model, then
> you might end up merging the attributes of these two subtypes into a
single
> table with the mutually-exclusive subtype columns NULLable.
>
> Also take into consideration any relationships your model might have
between
> the Player entity and a "Team" entity: a Prospect most likely is not
related
> to a Team, and that is something much more significant that a "Status"
value
> separating Players from Prospects.  Don't try to accommodate this by
putting
> both Prospects and Players into a single table and making the relationship
> between Player and Team optional rather than mandatory.  If you do, then
> you're letting the tail wag the dog.
>
> Respectfully,
>
> Adam Phillip Churvis
> Productivity Enhancement, Inc.
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alexander Aguilar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 12:41 PM
> Subject: OT: database modeling
>
>
> > I'm working on an amateur sport team's website and they of course want
to
> keep track of their player information.  On their website they want a
> contact/membership form for prospective players.  Now the data that is
> stored for a Player and a Prospect is very similar (personal info [height,
> weight, age], contact info and prowess [batting style, specialty,
> experience,etc].  A prospect is not a member of the team until approved by
> the team.
> >
> > Initially, I was leaning toward building a Prospects table but as I
> mentioned the fields are basically the same as the Player table.  Now I'm
> thinking I should put prospect data directly into the Player table but
> differentiate it by using a "status" column which would one of the three
> following values (active | inactive | prospect).  My question is which is
> the better way to handle Prospects (ie, separate Prospect table or use
> Player table with status field) ?
> >
> > thanks,
> > alex
> >
> >
> >
>
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