sounds like most of these facilities, the build it and they will come 
isn't true... sparcely populated warehousing :) We see that here in 
Pittsburgh and most other places.. Exodus being a big exception.

frankly, if someone wants me to co-lo and all they do is co-lo how 
smart am I... sure cost might make me choose wrong...

Remember, sales people are only there to get the contract and you stuck 
for a very long time... Gald to here someone has made it well for a 
good period of time, in the post-sales world of provisioning.

-paris

[finding the future in the past, passing the future in the present]
[connecting people, places and things]


-----Original Message-----
From: "Jon Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 18:19:58 -0400
Subject: Re: Radiant Communications

> Most likely Verio does not have their own location in New Orleans. In
> most
> cities, Verio just co-locates with someone else. If the building
> power goes
> out, or some #$!%ing contstruction workers spray insulation into the
> ducts
> causing the AC to shutdown, or the moron on the rack next to you
> trips and
> falls on top of your server, or someone forgot to fill the generators
> with
> gasoline...there are so many variables...
> It's usually not Verio's fault is what I'm trying to say ;-) I dont
> know
> anyone at Verio, or care, I do know that they do their best though.
> We are
> colocated next to them down here, and they are crazy redundant for no
> reason.
> They have 2 redundant Cisco 7500's with redundant backbones for 2
> stinking
> managed Sun RAQ's, with a ton of batteries to backup the
> generators...
> 
> jon
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Russel Madere" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 5:54 PM
> Subject: RE: Radiant Communications
> 
> 
> > Verio in New Orleans was worse.  A little over a week ago, they
> lost power
> > for ALMOST 4 hours.  Thier power failover failed apparently.
> >
> > ============================================================
> >   Russel Madere, Jr.         Senior Web Developer
> >   ICQ: 5446158               http://www.TurboSquid.com
> >
> > Some days you eat the bear; some days the bear eats you.
> > ============================================================
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Brook Davies [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 16:46
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: Radiant Communications
> > >
> > >
> > > I host my 4 CF servers at RADIANT COMMUNICATIONS. Vancouver BC
> Canada...
> > >
> > > Man, It is so frustrating when the facility we use for
> > > co-locating 4 of our
> > > servers all of a sudden becomes unavailable and we can not access
> any of
> > > our sites.
> > >
> > > Going on 10 minutes now, all four of our servers are down. last
> > > time (last
> > > month) our connection was down for 70 minutes!!!!
> > >
> > > Another time they decided to update the software on our leased
> fire wall
> > > without notifying us effecting disabling our https and smtp
> services for
> > > close to an hour.
> > >
> > > What's the point in investing time and money in fail over when
> > > your bloody
> > > ISP can't keep their "redundant" service running!!!
> > >
> > > And to add insult to injury, their stinking site
> > > (www.radiant.net) is still
> > > running just fine. Maybe they out source...grrrrrr
> 
> 
> 
>
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