Serious money is what it comes down to really.. Jim hit it right on the
head :)
It would be interesting to see what people are getting for their co-lo
dollars and where they are..
I am still a fan of building it locally.... If I see a site that can't
grow within such schema it usually would mean too much traffic..
directly correlated would be a large amount of gear as well...
for most of these sites and projects, the sustained amount of bandwidth
consumed isn't so very high... Please someone out there point at their
project (CF based) that takes on more than 6 Mbits sustained...
The point here is, if you build a facility locally and build it right
enough it will live with you and is an asset. If you send it out to the
data center, bless your staffs heart when something is broken, or when
you need to migrate to another data center..
For most folks the idea of redundancy and multiple hot sites and
massive bandwidth is an ideal situation they would like to see, but
isn't the scenario...
Until you break a sustained usage or an average predictable burst rate
in house is far more ideal... far more...
-paris
[finding the future in the past, passing the future in the present]
[connecting people, places and things]
-----Original Message-----
From: "Jim McAtee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 16:43:51 -0600
Subject: Re: Radiant Communications
> Like most things, there are good providers and bad. Looks like you
> chose
> one that is _really_ bad. I don't know what you pay per month, but
> there's
> a very real "you get what you pay for" factor when it comes to
> colocation
> facilities. If reliability is paramount (for an ASP, you're
> absolutely
> correct that it is), get those servers out of there as soon as
> possible.
>
> Forget about building your own facility, or bringing in a couple of
> T1 lines
> to your office for doing high-availability hosting. There's almost
> no way
> you can match the facilities offered by a good data center without
> spending
> some serious money.
>
> Jim
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brook Davies" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 4:21 PM
> Subject: RE: Radiant Communications
>
>
> > 45 minutes and counting.....the clients are starting to call.....
> >
> > I'm trying to run a god damned Application service provider.
> Keeping the
> > systems running 100% of the time is hard enough without my Co
> location
> > facility contributing to the problem. In the ASP market, high
> availability
> > and reliability are paramount. This kind of outage is absolutely
> terrible.
> > It destroys my clients confidence in us.
> >
> > Paris, I think your right in saying the co-location may not be all
> it is
> > made out to be. I'm looking into alternatives now as I pull out my
> hair.
> > Thanks for letting me vent.
> >
> > 45 minutes and counting?!! I think I'm going to start smoking
> again....
> >
> > Brook Davies
> > logiforms.com
> > Maracasmedia.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > At 04:54 PM 04/06/01 -0500, you wrote:
> > >Verio in New Orleans was worse. A little over a week ago, they
> lost
> power
> > >for ALMOST 4 hours. Thier power failover failed apparently.
> > >
> > >============================================================
> > > Russel Madere, Jr. Senior Web Developer
> > > ICQ: 5446158 http://www.TurboSquid.com
> > >
> > >Some days you eat the bear; some days the bear eats you.
> > >============================================================
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Brook Davies [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 16:46
> > > > To: CF-Talk
> > > > Subject: Radiant Communications
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I host my 4 CF servers at RADIANT COMMUNICATIONS. Vancouver BC
> Canada...
> > > >
> > > > Man, It is so frustrating when the facility we use for
> > > > co-locating 4 of our
> > > > servers all of a sudden becomes unavailable and we can not
> access any
> of
> > > > our sites.
> > > >
> > > > Going on 10 minutes now, all four of our servers are down. last
> > > > time (last
> > > > month) our connection was down for 70 minutes!!!!
> > > >
> > > > Another time they decided to update the software on our leased
> fire
> wall
> > > > without notifying us effecting disabling our https and smtp
> services
> for
> > > > close to an hour.
> > > >
> > > > What's the point in investing time and money in fail over when
> > > > your bloody
> > > > ISP can't keep their "redundant" service running!!!
> > > >
> > > > And to add insult to injury, their stinking site
> > > > (www.radiant.net) is still
> > > > running just fine. Maybe they out source...grrrrrr
> > > >
> > > > Brook Davies
> > > > MaracasMedia inc.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > At 05:32 PM 04/06/01 -0400, you wrote:
> > > > >I have the following javascript and form. Can anyone see why
> I am
> not
> > > > >getting the confirm box? No error messages, just processes
> the
> > > > form without
> > > > >the confirm. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> > > > >
> > > > ><head>
> > > > ><meta http-equiv="Content-Language" content="en-us">
> > > > ><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;
> > > > charset=windows-1252">
> > > > ><meta name="description" content="">
> > > > ><meta name="keywords" content="">
> > > > ><title>Action Page</title>
> > > > >
> > > > ><!--- check the user wants to delete the PAGE they selected
> --->
> > > > ><script language="JavaScript">
> > > > > function checksure() {
> > > > > if (confirm('Are you sure you want to DELETE the Page
> > > > you selected?
> > > > >This will also delete any SUB articles of this item!!')) {
> > > > > return true; }
> > > > > else {
> > > > > return false; }
> > > > > }
> > > > ></script>
> > > > >
> > > > ></head>
> > > > >
> > > > ><body>
> > > > ><cfoutput>
> > > > ><cfif URL.a is "Delete">
> > > > > <cfset CheckDelete = "return checksure();">
> > > > ><cfelse>
> > > > > <cfset CheckDelete = "return checksubmit();">
> > > > ></cfif>
> > > > >
> > > > ><cfoutput>
> > > > ><form action="action.cfm" method="post" name="update"
> > > > >onsubmit="#CheckDelete#">
> > > > >
> > > > >.... Form Fields
> > > > >
> > > > ><input type="submit" value="<---- #URL.a# ---->" name="update"
> > > > >class="formboxes"></td></tr>
> > > > > <input type="hidden" name="action" value="#URL.a#">
> > > > > <input type="hidden" name="id" value="#URL.ID#">
> > > > > <input type="hidden" name="lev" value="#URL.lev#">
> > > > > <input type="hidden" name="WebSiteIDNo" value="2">
> > > > ></cfif>
> > > > ></form>
> > > > >
> > > > >Thank you,
> > > > >
> > > > > > Issac Rosa
> > > > > >
> > > > > > IT - National Sales & Marketing
> > > > > > OLAP Specialist Team Lead
> > > > > > Ofc: 407-658-3111
> > > > > > Cell: 407-342-0644
> > > > > > Fax: 407-971-2374
> > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
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