Well i'm not talking about plagerism, i'm talking about studying the code,
how they made it work, etc, etc....then developing your own application,
that is how a lot of us learned from bookes that we've bought, starting out
with cold fusion, I am sure most of us put in a few bits of code mentioned
in forta's books, and tried it out, then took off with it right?   That is
what my majority point is.

kev

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-----Original Message-----
From: Top-Link Tech (John Ceci) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 12:40 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Need decryptor tag for CFUG presentation


But Kevin that book has been published and the author has made the decision
to give that code away with the COST of the book...or the Teacher has been
PAID by the school to develop the program as a learning tool...See the
general thread there...MONEY changing hands...

If you just pluck a tag off the tag gallery, decrypt it and then use the
code, in whole or part, you are breaking the law...

John

-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Mansel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 11:54 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Need decryptor tag for CFUG presentation


Anyone with any knowledge of using a search engine can find that site.  I
don't think it was that big of deal personally.  A popular way to learn how
to code is to see other people's code.  That is how you learn in school, the
teacher shows you code, you get a book, then you take it to the next level
to create something with the tools you learn from studying that code.

just my .02

-kev

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-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Long [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 8:55 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Need decryptor tag for CFUG presentation


I think it was VERY unprofessional of those individuals that
posted a link directly to the utility. I have no idea how many
people are on this list, but now all of them have knowledge of
that site. Why don't you just upload a copy of your CFAS cd and
post a link to that too.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 8:50 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Need decryptor tag for CFUG presentation


Saying this as Michael Dinowitz, yes. The decrypt utility is illegal
according to the MM licensing contract.

> Correct me if I'm wrong, and I'm saying this as Ray Camden, not Ray Camden
> of Macromedia, but isn't use of this decryptor illegal? Should we so
> casually discuss a piece of a software that is probably illegal to use?
>
> Also, in general, unless you encrypt your OWN files, you should not be
> decrypting other people's templates. If you _do_ encrypt your files, you
can
> contact Tech support for help. Therefore, there is no need for this
> software.
>
> Am I wrong here? And let's not discuss wether it's "right" or "wrong", I'm
> talking about legality.
>
> =======================================================================
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>
> "My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is." - Yoda
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jones, Matt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 9:37 AM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: Need decryptor tag for CFUG presentation
> >
> >
> > http://shrewm.net/cfd/
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Alii Design [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 8:30 AM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: Need decryptor tag for CFUG presentation
> >
> >
> > That website is gone http://shroom.dv8.org/cfd/ I was looking for it
> > recently and it has been down.
> > Is there another?
> > Rich
> >
>
>
>
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