----- Original Message -----
From: "Dennis Powers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 7:38 PM
Subject: RE: Mailing List Manager
> Howie,
>
> Thanks for the information. I have always found your responses professional
> and informative. I do have one (dumb) question that hasn't been made simple
> enough for my feeble brain to understand.
>
There are no "dumb" questions - only stupid answers <g>
> If I have a NT/2000 server that is only going to run the iMS package (no web
> server) I would need to install a license of Cold Fusion on that box to make
> iMS "fully" functional/programmable?
>
Yes, unless you opt for Active State Perl which is free.
> And to follow that thought further, I would need to install a web server on
> that box if I wanted web access to any admin functions that are written for
> it?
>
Actually, you can have iMS and web mail on separate boxes. The iMS box would provide
information as to the received mail that could be used by the webmail server.
> I apologize for asking, I usually catch on fairly quickly, but I seem to be
> missing something that's preventing the concept to gel in my head.
>
Actually, iMS is such a radical idea that I have trouble explaining it to most people.
Once they "get it", however, I usually get feedback like "wow - this is great" <g>
> I am intrigued with the idea of a CF programmable mail server especially
> since the one I am using (Post.Office) has turned into abandon-ware. I
> really can't complain about Post.Office, in the 4 years I have been running
> it, it has been one of the most stable packages I have used and even with
> it's few feature short comings I would stick with it if it wasn't being
> abandoned by Open Wave.
>
> Some of the things other than the standard features I need from the mail
> server I decide to switch to is:
>
> 1) Be stable
iMs has been around for 2 1/2 years and sold for 2. It is a very stable package at
this point.
> 2) ODBC access to the List server addresses
CF interaction makes this possible.
> 3) ODBC access to user account information
See #2.
> 4) Be stable
See #1.
> 5) Flexible Relay Blocking
Easy to do with iMS...
> 6) Flexible IP/Domain connection refusal
See #5.
> 7) Be Stable
See #1.
> 8) Allow for virus scan of email attachments
We're working on a cfx for this but for now you would need to save attachments and
call a virus scanner (all possible with CF).
> 9) Web mail interface.
FusionMail has web mail.
> 10) Did I mention: Be Stable
Did I mention - See #1? <g>
> 11) Web based administration tools
>
FusionMail has web based administration of all account and domain functionality...
> I am more and more interested in iMS especially since others on this list
> have raved about it and most likely will be contacting you off list for more
> details. Thank you again for the information.
>
Ask away - I'm nore than happy to answer your questions.
Regards,
Howie
>
> Best regards,
>
> Dennis Powers
> UXB Internet
> (203)879-2844
> http://www.uxbinfo.com/
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 12:12 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Mailing List Manager
>
> Actually, it's not exactly right to say that the advanced features of iMS
> have to be built...it is more correct to say that all iMS features are
> built. The reason is - iMS is a mail server platform that is very much like
> a web server that uses ColdFusion in that it uses CF to perform the majority
> of its functions (just like a dynamic web server wouldn't do much without
> coding CF templates). In order to get developers started on iMS development
> we also provide a freeware ColdFusion application known as FusionMail.
> FusionMail provides templates that make iMS into a functioning mail server
> and also provide a web mail interface. We have clients that use FusionMail
> with only small modifications and with many modifications. We also have
> clients that have coded their servers from scratch.
>
> To answer the question from Dennis Powers:
>
> iMS is the only mail server that uses ColdFusion for processing (as a matter
> of fact, the iMS technology is currently patent pending). Because of the
> unique architecture, iMS has unlimited features (if there is a feature that
> you need then all you need to do is code it into the cfml of the server).
> For example, we needed a list server, auto responders and email forwarding
> so we coded those into FusionMail for our use. And, these features were
> coded in minutes - not hours or days. iMS includes advanced features that
> enable you to lock down your server in pretty much any way that you want
> (including built-in RBL support and IP address matching). FusionMail does
> not allow unauthorized relaying by default. It does not, however, do IP
> address checking. Suppose you do want to only allow
> relaying for a range of IP addresses..then, all you need to do is the
> following:
>
> 1 - assign a range or ranges of IP addresses that are allowed to relay (in
> the iMS configuration)
> 2 - in your cfml you allow or disallow relays based on a variable called
> "IPAllowed" which is set as "YES" or "NO" by the server according to the IP
> addresses that you assigned in step 1.
>
> So, basically, creating features in iMS is usually straight forward.
>
> We also have a version of iMS (called iMS-SE) that is a replacement for the
> external mail server that is required with CFMAIL. You can install iMS-SE
> and then change your CF Administrator settings to use iMS-SE as the mail
> server. This allows you to eliminate your dependence on the mail server
> administrator completely and also allows you to use the advanced features of
> iMS (using cfx_imsmail) including:
>
> real-time delivery status
> automatic delivery retry (no more UNDELIVR folder worries)
> unlimited attachments
> image embedding into html messages
>
> Basically, there is no other CFMAIL replacement that can provide all of the
> features of iMS (iMS even includes our inFusion Scheduler product which is a
> replacement for CFSchedule) and all of its proven reliability (and, iMS does
> not even need an external mail server like other replacement products
> require).
>
> BTW - iMS 2.1 will be released shortly with more features and enahanced
> processing speed and will also be a free upgrade for all iMS users (even
> those who bought 1.0).
>
> Please feel free to ask me any questions that you may have and I'll be happy
> to answer as best as I can.
>
> Regards,
>
> Howie Hamlin - inFusion Project Manager
> On-Line Data Solutions, Inc.
> www.CoolFusion.com
> 631-737-4668 x101
> inFusion Mail Server (iMS) - The Intelligent Mail Server
> Join the DevCon community at www.coolfusion.com/devcon
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Dinowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 8:06 PM
> Subject: Re: Mailing List Manager
>
>
> > Currently I only have a single box for everything. As soon as I get a free
> > second and some spare cash I'm getting an SQL server to do all the DB
> stuff.
> > This means that there is a webserver, ColdFusion server and mail server
> all
> > on the same box at the moment and it's all running smoothly.
> > As for iMS working on a separate box from the CF server, I think it needs
> a
> > CF server for part of the processing but because it's all 'local', you can
> > probably use the free single user license version as its just not going to
> a
> > different IP for its work (in most cases). Actually, I believe that you
> can
> > use CF Express as well as long as your just using Access.
> > iMS has stuff build in for the black hole and other anti-spam stuff (no
> > matter how much I dislike the organizations) and it's simplicity to add
> your
> > own to it.
> > The main problem with iMS is that some of the more 'advanced' features
> have
> > to be built from scratch or bought from others. I'm talking about heavy
> > mailing lists and such. The FusionMail program is good enough for the
> basic
> > stuff.
> > Best to talk to Howie about what features are there and access to them.
> He's
> > on the list and is usually very fast with his responses.
> >
>
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