All I can tell is that this discussion isn't about coldfusion.
Please move it to CF Community
-----Original Message-----
From: Rey Bango [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 4:33 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Check out what Gartner is recommending. Drop IIS!
Chris,
We're not talking about why MS is a target. The discussion is about whether
Gartner's recommendation to move to another platform makes sense. I don't
want to harp on you but I don't want this to turn into another "Linux is
better than MS is better than FreeBSD is better than..." thread.
Rey...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Martinez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 4:53 PM
Subject: RE: Check out what Gartner is recommending. Drop IIS!
> Benjamin that is one of the best analogies I've heard. But back to what
> Costas was saying. Why has Microsoft become such a target?
> Sure they release overpriced, bloated, buggy products. Sure their
business
> practices are shady. And perhaps maybe, just maybe they stole a couple of
> ideas from other companies. But why all the hate? Look at all the good
they
> have done.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Benjamin Falloon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 3:32 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Check out what Gartner is recommending. Drop IIS!
>
>
> Sure, I'm not saying that either Apache or other web server don't have
> holes, but running IIS is like walking around with a 'kick me' sign stuck
to
> your back knowing full well it's there.
>
> People don't usually write viruses/worms for apache and other web
servers...
> they usually just hack them which is always possible, but with IIS people
> are writting automated viruses/worms. I'd rather be hacked by a hacker
with
> a sense of humour than have my how web serving directory nuked by an
> automated program.
>
> My point is that you would have less exposure to risk running alternatives
> because they aren't a massive target like IIS is.
>
> Benjamin
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Costas Piliotis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 6:19 AM
> Subject: RE: Check out what Gartner is recommending. Drop IIS!
>
>
> > You know it's funny though. A quick search at www.securiteam.com shows
> that
> > Apache and iPlanet have many vulnerabilities as well. Think perhaps
that
> > the research is simply political? Hackers seem to actually target IIS
> boxes
> > likely for their hatred of Micro$oft. I think there's more to this than
> > meets the eye...
> >
> > Remember, nothing's ever secure. As stated in the movie The Score: "If
> > someone built it, someone can break it".
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Benjamin Falloon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 12:42 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Re: Check out what Gartner is recommending. Drop IIS!
> >
> >
> > Maybe a little OT, but my 2c.
> >
> > I wouldn't call that stupid at all.
> > Consider all of the attacks aimed squarely at IIS in the past few
months.
> > It's only going to increase. I've had personal experience with being
> hacked.
> > I run 2 internal IIS development boxes for CF and an internal hack
> replaced
> > *ALL* index.htm, default.htm files in all folders in the web serving
> > directory. Lucky more files where cfm.
> >
> > I'm not a 'server' admin (by title) but I can thank MS for this. If they
> > released a tighter web server with less vunerabilities maybe there would
> be
> > fewer viruses/hacks that could penetrate. People shouldn't need to have
to
> > patch every week.
> >
> > Doesn't that fact indicate that just *maybe* the software itself is
pretty
> > shaky?
> >
> > Consider this quote from the article,
> >
> > "Gartner remains concerned that viruses and worms will continue to
attack
> > IIS until Microsoft has released a completely rewritten, thoroughly and
> > publicly tested, new release of IIS,"
> >
> > Rewritten. That would be a good idea. Try to imagine a pair of pants
with
> as
> > many 'security' patches as is and will continue to be required for IIS.
> I'd
> > say the pants would be more patches than pants.
> >
> > Just a thought,
> >
> > Benjamin
> >
> > PS maybe apache would be a good alternative.
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Rey Bango" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 3:03 AM
> > Subject: OT: Check out what Gartner is recommending. Drop IIS!
> >
> >
> > > Now, I've always found Gartner to sway in a particular direction based
> > > in the wind changes and the phases of the moon but this recommendation
> > > is
> > just
> > > plain stupid. Check it out:
> > >
> > > http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1003-200-7294516.html
> > >
> > > Rey Bango
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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