Just as a clarification: The "IMS" mentioned below is emwac IMS (http://www1.sica.com/ims/) and not our mail server product. On-Line Data Solutions owns the trademark to "iMS" but there are many web sites that refer to the old emwac server as "IMS."
Regards, -- Howie Hamlin - inFusion Project Manager On-Line Data Solutions, Inc. - www.CoolFusion.com - 631-737-4668 x101 inFusion Mail Server (iMS) - The Intelligent Mail Server <<< Vote for iMS as the CFDJ Reader's Choice Awards Most Innovative Product >>> http://www.sys-con.com/coldfusion/readerschoice2001/nominationformbpa.cfm >>> Find out how iMS Stacks up to the competition: >http://www.coolfusion.com/imssecomparison.cfm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bryan Stevenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 3:48 PM Subject: Re: OT: SPAM lists? > Hey All, > > <cf_rant> > I just had an mazingly frustrating experiences with one of the blackhole > database maintainers (ordb.org). These folks think they are doing favours > by helping ISP's to block mail server IPs that are running open relays > (allow spammers to send using that mail server), but their implementation > SUCKS! > > The Scenario: > > I'm running a development box with IMS as a mail server (and hosting a > client's domain during development). After about 8 months with no mail > issues whatsoever I receive a bunch of spam test messages from ORDB.org and > then get a message saying that my mai lever was an open relay and had been > added to their database. This database is provided to ISPs so they can > block ALL mail coming from the IP addresses in it. > > SOOOooooOOoooo ORDB thinks it's best to just add my IP with NO warning and > no chance to fix the issue before getting blacklisted. Well that bit of > strong arming shut down my mail server and my client couldn't send any mail > (BTW my logs show that no spam EVER went through the system). You then have > to try and fix the problem (not easy in IMS) and submit your IP for > re-testing (which they say takes 5-10 hours...reality was 12 plus hrs). If > you haven't closed the relay then you have to try again (which I had to do). > > My client was without e-mail for over 2 days. I had to get rid of IMS and > found a GREAT free mail servr that allows SMTP authentication (Argo > Soft...get it). > > My communications with ORDB were less than fruitful. They didn't care that > my mail service was interrupted and said they don't give you a warning > because then more spam would get through (which there was none). So these > guys would rather innocent people lose their mail service instead of > allowing a few more spams through...geesh. To top it off they hide behind > the "well it;s the ISPs that block you..we just provide them with the > database of IPs". Which transaltes to "He didn't have to use the gun I > handed him"!! > > Well their predecesor ORBS had 2 legal injunctions against them and had to > shut down. I'm sure if they continue to stop valid mail service that > someone with the time and money will go after them too...awwwwwww what a > shame *insert eveil grin here* > </cf_rant> > > Thanks for listening...and get ArgoSoft's mail server....super easy to use > and install > > Bryan Stevenson > VP & Director of E-Commerce Development > Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. > p. 250.920.8830 > e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists