It is so funny to see this discussion keep cropping up. The whole blacklisting of open relays is a very touchy issue. I agree that there is little excuse for running an open relay in today's world (though some argue that it is their right... I think this was an issue in MIT vs. MAPS). I will not agree however that running one makes you ignorant. I have been blacklisted and not notified. The blacklist claims that it is not their responsibility to let me know that I was listed. Turns out that the mail server we were using (post.office) has few bugs (or holes) in it's relay filtering and that the only way to prevent it from being used as an open relay is to IP restrict who can connect. This is contrary to the documentation. I only found out about this because a users mail was being rejected and I was able to get a copy of the test that had failed and confirm the bug. This information in hand I resolved it. It have been nice to know I had failed though so that it could have been resolved sooner, this would have been even more effective than blocking me.
MAPS has basically been put out of business by getting sued over this issue (I think it was the legal costs though, not the settlements that killed them). It will probably not be long before the others follow suit (no pun intended). The Internet is a collection of private networks and it is within the rights of the owner of every single network to decide who may and may not pass traffic across their backbone, so if they want to subscribe to an ORB, it is their right, however you block someone with deep pockets and you are in for an expensive fight, right or not. my $.002 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists