price is just one portion of the argument. It is hard to say where a companies needs fit... I find often that a company might require a feature of the Professional or Enterprise type versions, but not need to utilize the rest.
I suppose one thing Macromedia might do is better situate the offerings so people might be able to get some of the functionality if they want it later or pay as they go for the advanced features... Keeping the lowest offering beneath 2k is mandatory and I think that is where the price point still remains... 2k is nothing to a business who indeed is considering a business centric site and infrastructure and staff costs. Macromedia might also consider sponsoring/partnering with some of the specialized training and employment sites to further their presence and market share. Additionally, developers should be able to buy a developers edition of the servers that cover the different platforms, versions and addons... much like the MSDN set... Makes things easier for the developers and means you get loyalty and some income you wouldn't otherwise. Also, get people compliant and license wise more interested and likely to be compliant.. Perhaps Macromedia might consider offering a free version of the last major release... so now 4.0 could be free or at least deeply discounted... creates new sales for dead products as well... Just wish the marketing was as innovative as the CF product.. -paris lundis -----Original Message----- From: Douglas Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 16:35 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: death of coldfusion Agreed. I believe that with the merger of Allaire and Macromedia, that CF will become alot more mainstream than what it currently is. Macromedia ha s a huge markershare of products for web development and more people are goi ng to be introduced to it through Macromedia than what it would have been through Allaire. The economy sucks for everyone right now and it is a har d fought deal to just find employment. I do believe that the cost of CF Ser ver should be reduced though. If they reduce the cost of CF server and bundle in studio for lets say $1500.00 then I think more people would be apt to pay for it, and they would also make far more money. What makes more sense, m ake $4500 from 1000 people or make $1500 from 10,000 people? Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ben Forta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 12:59 PM Subject: RE: death of coldfusion > Mark, > > They may be part of it. Or not. Either way it needs to be taken in context - > there are far more questions from absolute beginners looking for initia l > help on the Forums then there are posting from doomsayers - that definitely > says that folks are not just still using CF, they are also first starti ng to > do so. > > I also think that part of the frustration expressed on the Forums is > frustration at the current economic situation in general. Lots of peopl e are > looking for work, and yes, there are more ASP pages and sites out there than > CFML pages and sites, and so by default there'll be more ASP work than CFML > work. > > And while this is not a formal method of measuring interest in a produc t, I > do have my own gauges that I use - hits on my site, numbers of readers and > sites accessing my CF tips, book sales, etc. And none of those show tha t CF > is dying - on the contrary. > > --- Ben > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Smeets [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 2:15 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: death of coldfusion > > > It's just the microsoft lovers trying to stir things up, this happens l ike > once every 6 months. Be reasonable and ask yourself would you really ki ll a > language that is growing this fast in popularity that is more effective than > the other languages out there? (thats my opinion, I think cf is much better > than asp or php) > > Macromedia isn't incorporating CF into Dreamweaver for the past 2 versi on > for nothing. > > FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq > Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ > Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists > > ______________________________________________________________________ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
