I don't want to downplay the significance of code portability, but I think
that 95% of the _current_ customer base could probably care less.  For most
folks running CF on a Windows platform, if you tell them they can now take
their code and run it on the platform of their choice, they're going to say
"Well, that's nice" and not much more.

I certainly understand the advantages, but it's mostly to very large sites,
contractors, commercial software developers, and Macromedia itself.  It
sounds like a good move for Macromedia and for CF, but what remains to be
seen is whether Neo will offer any real advantages to the average developer
doing Windows or Linux CF web sites or intranets.

Jim


----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Dinowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 9:41 PM
Subject: Re: death of coldfusion


> I've dedicated the last 6.5 years of my life to CF and I'm not leaving an
> y
> time soon. Do I think CF is dead? No. Do I see it with a bright future? Y
> es.
> Have I listened to what has been said and shown about Neo? Yes and so sho
> uld
> you. The very fact that you'll be able to write cheap and fast CF code an
> d
> then be able to move the result over to the hardest core java servlet
> engines around means that we now have an expanded business base. It means
>  we
> have more options with our code and where we can use it. It means a lot.
> Neo
> is not 'only' new and improved. It's a new paradigm for CF programmers. I
> 'm
> just waiting for it to go live so I can release notes, lists and we can t
> alk
> about it openly.
> I'm going to email the head of the Neo project and see what we can do abo
> ut
> an 'early' list for Neo or at least for some Neo concepts.
>
>
> > Out of curiousity, what's the rush for NEO?
> >
> > Does everything always have to be NEW AND IMPROVED?
> >
> > (see Perl, for instance, which seems to evolve very slowly)
> > -- jon
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 4:29 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Re: death of coldfusion
> >
> >
> > Ben Forta wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > I also think that part of the frustration expressed on the Forums is
> > > frustration at the current economic situation in general.
> >
> >
> > And frustration with Macromedia in partcular :)
> >
> > Why is there no information on Neo? Sure there was something presented
> > at the DevCon, but creating a Neo resource center with mailinglist and
> > not presenting any news easily raises the impression that nothing is
> > happening. It could be announced on the mailinglist that some alpha
> > release was shipped to selected partners (if you read very carefully
> > through all the 200+ messages you will find some indications of this on
> > the forums), but instead there is silence.
> >
> > Imagine you are visiting your college buddies during the holiday season.
> > They all have nice stories about .NET and J2EE, and all we have is some
> > quotes about a product that some have seen but nobody has touched.
> > Nobody likes to have to listen to the success stories of others.
> >
> > Jochem
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