Yup. That works. But it still ticks off the clients.

If everyone was reasonable we wouldn't need governments, I guess...

-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Olive [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 8:02 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Fusebox pros and cons


that's the point of having an appendix b in your contract, with this sort of
thing specified.

the clause in the contract referencing said appendix shoul dhave something
along the lines of "if Client requests more, this is my/our fee for changes,
per hour."

then jack the hourly rate up REAL high.  if they want it that bad, they'll
pay for it.

christopher olive
cto, vp of web development, vp it security
atnet solutions, inc.
410.931.4092
http://www.atnetsolutions.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 10:49 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Fusebox pros and cons


  Bingo, that is correct.
  As an example:
   "I want a one-time rating system.  I really want to capture the user's
first impression without them being able to change it."
  [create a one time rating system]
  "What if the user wants to change there rating?  It does happen."

At 08:04 AM 3/14/2002 -0600, you wrote:
>I think he meant that clients often expand and dilute development
>methodology by adding features and functions to an application after the
dev
>plan is locked down... you know, your client comes in during the beta and
>says ".... hey you know I was thinking, what if we......". Personally, the
>best ideas I've ever had have come from clients <g> - so I don't resent it.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 8:56 AM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: RE: Fusebox pros and cons
>
>
>not being contradictory here but,
>
>how does too much client envolment hinder a well written application?  most
>of the clients i've worked with don't have the CF skillset in the
>organization so I've been able to keep everything pretty clean, as our
>individual interpretations of "clean" go.  I would think that our service
>is applying technology to business rules.  if they, the consumers, don't
>know the tech., how can they have destructive input?
>
>possibly just lucky w/ the clients i've had?...savan
>
>
>
>
>Jeffry Houser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 03/13/2002 07:05:04 PM
>
>Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>To:   CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>cc:
>
>Subject:  RE: Fusebox pros and cons
>
>
>   I think he meant Daves.
>   There is usually too much client involvement for a well written
>applications to exist.  It is the curse of being the service industry.
>
>At 04:24 PM 3/13/2002 -0600, you wrote:
> >What?  well written applications? Or Daves?
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Cary Gordon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 11:31 AM
> >To: CF-Talk
> >Subject: RE: Fusebox pros and cons
> >
> >
> >Based on his contributions to this list, I'd guess that there are about a
> >dozen...
> >
> >At 09:11 AM 3/12/2002 -0800, you wrote:
> >--- snip ---
> > >it is
> > >true that any well written CF Application should be logical and
>structured
> > >but there aren't that many Dave Watt's et al in the real CF World,  My
> > >sixpence worth.
> > >
> > >Mike Brunt
> > >Sempra Energy
> > >213.244.5226
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>


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