for single user development purposes CF is free.
there are alot of free editors available to develop CF in.
a hobbyist can get started with any language. As far as I know 
they are almost all free and can be used on a free OS. There is no 
barrier to entry. 

On Thu, 4 Apr 2002, Daye, Marianne wrote:

> Pardon me!  I hadn't heard of CF Enterprise.  Hence the question "Does CF
> have an equivalent?".  If I ever get to code in CF again I'll have to look
> into that.
> 
> I don't know what it is you don't get, but as a part-time telecommuter, I
> prefer not to have to rely on a remote server while developing.  As for
> using the web site on the laptop, the application contains a lengthy survey
> that relies on skip-logic; not something we would want to do over in another
> format (gets expensive).
> 
> I have no interest in debating whether or not it's 'fair' that ASP is free.
> For the young beginner or hobbyist, it's may be the only affordable option
> to get started!
> 
> Yeah, I guess you can develop CF in Notepad as well; just never did.
> Scratch that point.
> 
> Have a nice day!
> 
> Marianne
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Everland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 9:15 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: CF VS ASP <- let the trolling being
> 
> 
> 1. PWS? What???? I don't get it. PWS is a web server. Sure ASP is built in,
> but you can get a FREE Developer version of CF Enterprise and it can work in
> conjunction with PWS. Where's the problem here?
> 
> 2. Again if you install the free version of CF on the laptop I doubt this
> would be an issue. Though I question having an entire web application on a
> laptop. If anything I would have given them the information they needed in
> another form and made life easier to upload data to the rest of the
> application.
> 
> Sure you pay for CF, but we already knew this. Not everyone can have 75% of
> the world's desktop so they can just offer things for free. I don't see why
> you can't program CF in a word processor, matter of fact a lot of my
> debugging is on notepad when I am offsite. Sure I love CF Studio, but it is
> in no means required. 
> 
> I don't understand some of the issues you brought up here. Please explain
> better.
> 
> Robert Everland III
> Dixon Ticonderoga
> Web Developer Extraordinaire
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Daye, Marianne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 9:11 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: CF VS ASP <- let the trolling being
> 
> 
> I have to agree that CF is easier and faster to use than ASP.  However, ASP
> does have the advantage of PWS.  Does CF have an equivalent?  I started out
> with ASP, then used CF for two years, and now I'm using ASP again.  I'm not
> ecstatic about it, but I have found a couple of advantages:
> 
> 1.  Thanks to PWS, if I want to work from home, I can just copy the ASP site
> to my home computer.  With CF I had to work across a cable connection which
> slowed things down a bit.  Of course, I have to access the database over the
> network either way, but the web files can be retrieved and saved faster with
> PWS.
> 
> 2.  One of our web sites is not only used by people on-line, but also by
> field personnel who use laptops, and have to upload and download data.
> Thanks to PWS and MSDE, they will be able to use the same ASP pages as the
> on-line users, while using DTS to transfer data back and fourth.  In a
> similar situation with CF, we had to develop a separate Access application
> for the field team members.
> 
> Some other more obvious advantages is that ASP is free and can be developed
> in a simple word processor, if need be.  Microsoft is also a huge name,
> whether you like them or not, and it doesn't hurt to know how to user their
> technology.
> 
> Marianne Daye
> Programmer/Analyst
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thane Sherrington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 3:09 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: CF VS ASP <- let the trolling being
> 
> 
> At 12:06 PM 4/3/02 -0800, David Schmidt wrote:
> >If he's willing to fork the bucks for the training.  Grab hold, hang on,
> and
> >take what you can learn.
> 
> A cold hearted approach (but I think wise) would be to get the training 
> paid for, and then move to a company that is more reasonable.
> 
> T
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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