Well you're welcome to disagree of course, but my applications were
getting sub 50ms with CF 5 almost a year ago. Just putting them on newer
hardware would lower the number even further.

-Matt

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 9:26 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX)
> 
> I disagree.  The more distributed the web world becomes, the more that
> performance will become THE issue. Every millisecond becomes important
> when
> your biggest battle is already network latency.
> 
> -mk
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 10:52 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX)
> 
> 
> It's a great goal, but have a look at the other folks in the J2EE
world
> who have been at it a long time. Again, on a single server, a properly
> built CF 5 application is going to out perform one built on top of
JRun,
> WebSphere, iPlanet, or WebLogic. I doubt seriously that MM has some
leg
> up on the rest of the J2EE vendors in terms of performance.
> 
> This is all a moot point really though. Unless you don't know how to
> code, every application server from CF 5 to J2EE is plenty fast
enough.
> Scalability is simply not the issue it was back in the day, see my
> editorial over at Evolt.org,
>
http://www.evolt.org/article/Scalability_s_New_Meaning/21/23896/index.ht
> ml.
> 
> -Matt
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jesse Noller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 8:39 AM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX)
> >
> > Also think about the performance that you're seeing right now.
> >
> > On first run, a CFMX page "compiles". The pages are no longer
> interpreted
> > on the fly. This means your initial "First Hit" is going to take a
few
> > seconds, but every request after this is going to much faster.
> >
> > It's a complaint we've seen on the forums, Ie, "I just installed,
why
> is
> > the admin so slow" the answer is simple, the admin is compiling
itself
> for
> > the first time. If you hit the admin after the first time, you'll
note
> > it's much snappier.
> >
> > The "initial compile" bump is being examined and worked on, but it
> does
> > not change the fact that the pages are being COMPILED, not
interpreted
> as
> > presvious versions.
> >
> > As for Matt's comment about JSP, this should not be the case in the
> end. I
> > know I for one want CFMX to be as fast, and faster still, then CF5.
> This
> > is our goal.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 11:39 AM
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX)
> > >
> > >
> > > > So, in a small company like mine, where I have maybe 5
> > > > people using CF at once on an intranet application, (I
> > > > also use CF from a shared host) there is no advantage
> > > > to going to MX? I'm still waiting for a great reason
> > > > to upgrade to CF 5.0.
> > >
> > > Sure, there are lots of reasons! They're not necessarily
performance
> > > reasons, though:
> > >
> > > 1. The ability to publish and consume web services,
> > > 2. Verity K2 (since you're not even on CF 5 yet) is much
> > > faster than the
> > > previous version of Verity,
> > > 3. A working Advanced Security interface for developers
> > > (Sandbox security),
> > > 4. Charting,
> > > 5. and much, much more! CFCs, UDFs (again, since you're not
> > > on CF 5) ...
> > >
> > > Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> > > http://www.figleaf.com/
> > > voice: (202) 797-5496
> > > fax: (202) 797-5444
> > >
> > >
> >
> 
> 
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