at least there's some chat along these lines: The Coldfusion Podcast Episode 19 - Where is Coldfusion? http://www.coldfusionpodcast.com/node/52 (from about 5 minutes in)
they make an interesting point about Adobe marketing to people (unlike Macromedia) - have a listen especially when you equate "PHP's viral advertising"...which also applies to R'on'R - how to build a "buzz" around a product > everyones learning .NET and/or LAMP based development these days yeah, I've seen that. damn shame that. On 5/5/06, Ryan Sabir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Just on this... > > Has anyone tried telling a group of non-ColdFusion types that you are looking > for a ColdFusion developer? > > After the laughter subsides I get a pretty standard response that CF is on > its way out, everyones learning .NET and/or LAMP based development these days. > > If that is the general feeling in the industry then it's not much of a > surprise that new blood isn't entering the field. Its interesting what you > hear when you leave Adobe's Reality Distortion Field. > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Mandel > > Sent: Friday, 5 May 2006 1:44 PM > > To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com > > Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Where have all the CF developers gone? > > > > > > Robin, > > > > I had no idea you had positions in melbourne? > > > > There doesn't seem to be a huge amount of opportunity in > > Melbourne as opposed to other cities (Sydney, Brisbane) for > > CF positions. > > > > When I was looking for a new job ~ 2-4 months ago, I was > > scrounging to find CF development positions. It was actually > > quite hard. > > > > The channels I looked through were CFJobs (nothing), it.Seek > > (where I found my current job), and mycareer (almost a mirror > > image of seek) > > > > That being said, I also believe that there is a skill > > shortage in terms of quality CF developers. Those of us that > > are employed are kept on board, and those of us that looking, > > tend to get snapped up pretty quick. I turned around my job > > in about 3/4 months, which is reasonably fast considering 2 > > of those months were december and january - where (a) nothing > > ever happens in Australia and (b) I was in the US all of Jan. > > > > Mark > > > > On 5/5/06, Robin Hilliard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On 04/05/2006, at 5:00 PM, Ryan Sabir wrote: > > > > > > > > > Where are all the good CF developers these days? > > > > > > > > > From what I can tell, they're happily employed as CF developers... > > > > > > We have several Sydney positions (including yours) and two in > > > Melbourne I can't fill at present. What we're experiencing > > is a lack > > > of experienced CF developers freelancing or fishing for new > > jobs through traditional channels. > > > > > > Some other factors: > > > > > > * Far less CF training going on at the moment, and less new > > blood as a > > > result. This may change shortly however - I know that Dynamic are > > > running three Advanced CF courses this year (I'm the > > instructor). I'm > > > sure Geoff will be running more courses too. > > > > > > * Many companies seem to be looking for people at tech lead levels, > > > but are simply not offering enough remuneration to attract > > this type of developer. > > > I think this is because a lot of companies using CF are expanding > > > quickly at present but are reluctant to offer more because > > they don't > > > know how long the boom is going to last. > > > > > > We're just seeing demand exceed supply at the moment - if > > you believe > > > in market forces and regression to the mean this should > > sort itself out soon. > > > > > > Robin > > > > > > > > > ______________ > > > > > > Robin Hilliard > > > Director - RocketBoots Pty Ltd > > > Consulting . Software Licensing . Recruitment . Training > > > http://www.rocketboots.com.au > > > > > > For schedule/availability call Pamela Higgins: > > > w +61 7 5451 0362 > > > m +61 419 677 151 > > > f +61 3 9923 6261 > > > e [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > or Direct: > > > m +61 418 414 341 > > > e [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > *** Worldwide Adobe Licensing - Volume discounts now start at one > > > point *** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > W: www.compoundtheory.com > > ICQ: 3094740 > > > > > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
