The only caveat to that is to cover costs, particularly with fuel
prices being what they are.  If it is in the same town, cool.  But if
I have to drive for over 15 minutes, I typically tack on a
representitive flat fee to cover costs.  This isn't to cover my time
so much, as I typically public transport and can work or read en
route.  Even driving, I am not working for them, so they are not
getting value for money by paying for that time.  But if it costs me
$50 in fuel and car wear to get there and back, I just lost a gross
$10 per hour off my rate for a 5-hour job.

Chad

On 6/23/06, Toby Tremayne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I agree with Steve - I've come across a number of people who follow
> the view of charging for being onsite etc, but I have a hard time
> justifying to myself charging for anything other than just the exact
> hours I worked on documentation and code etc.
>
> Toby
>
> On 23/06/2006, at 1:38 PM, Steve Onnis wrote:
>
> >
> > As a contractor, I would only bill a client for the time I was
> > working. If I
> > go for lunch and I am working while im eating then yeah I would
> > bill you for
> > it. If I totally stop and have a break then no I wouldn't bill you.
> >
> > As an employee I don't get paid for lunch so as a contractor I take
> > the same
> > principle.
> >
> > Taking that contractors view, where do you stop?
> >
> > If I wasn't working on site I would be working from home and I
> > wouldn't have
> > a shower and I would just get up 5 minutes before I am gonna start
> > work and
> > park myself in front of the pc when im ready, so that mean I start
> > billing
> > you from when I drag the sheets off myself in the morning?
> >
> > I would be telling him that he's more than welcome to bring his
> > fresh soup
> > in to the office and eat it there but I wouldn't be paying him for
> > a lunch
> > break if he is actually completely stopping for lunch.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Behalf Of Mike Kear
> > Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 1:27 PM
> > To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: [cfaussie] Billing question for contractors ...
> >
> >
> >
> > Question for those contracting on hourly rates .... do you bill your
> > clients for lunchtime if you are working on their premises?
> >
> > This arises from a conversation I had with a colleague the other day.
> > I noted down the time we left the office to go buy a sandwich across
> > the road, and he asked what i did that for.  I said well I'm not going
> > to bill him for going to buy lunch.   My colleague said that he always
> > billed for that time.
> >
> > His logic was .. if he wasnt hired by this client, he wouldn't be at
> > that office.  Most likely he'd be working at home having fresh
> > vegetable soup and toast and a bit of this and a bit of that.  And
> > more than likely a bit of the other as well.   So he was only getting
> > a meazly sandwich for lunch because the client wanted him working on
> > the client's premises.  Ergo, the client should pay for his time.   If
> > he was working on his own premises, he reasoned, he'd be clocking on
> > and off the job on his own schedule.
> >
> > What do the rest of you make of this?  what do you to?   Am I dudding
> > myself by only billing the client for hours spent actually working on
> > his project?
> >
> > --
> > Cheers
> > Mike Kear
> > Windsor, NSW, Australia
> > Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer
> > AFP Webworks
> > http://afpwebworks.com
> > ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> -----------------------------------
>
>         Life is poetry, write it in your own words
>
> -----------------------------------
>
> Toby Tremayne
> Senior Technical Consultant
> Lyricist Software
> 0416 048 090
> ICQ: 13107913
>
>
>
> >
>

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