[cfaussie] Re: OT: - .NET sucking the life out of me

Tue, 04 Jul 2006 10:11:51 -0700

Shane, that must have been over a year ago that you found BD.NET to be in beta. It has long been in production use by many companies now, not the least of which is Myspace, which many know was a CF5 site that was gasping until they decided to move to .NET and found BD.NET a great way to make the move while preserving their CFML investment--all with getting a bug bounce in performance. There are some who accuse it of being slower, but I know from the folks at Myspace (who watch their servers very closely and professionally) that there has indeed been considerable improvement. So much so, in fact, that MS has made "great hay" of saying that it's running on .NET--without mentioning that it's CFML on .NET by way of BlueDragon.
 
All that said, I just want to add that to Cratima's and others saying that a move to .NET is a bad one, I think there may be a lot of FUD--much like in the early years when we CF folks always painted ASP in a bad light. Look, each tool has its adherents and its pros and cons. Nothing's perfect. Even so, I can tell you from my working on both sides of the fence that both ASP.NET and .NET are very substantial and successful products with huge followings. We can try to dismiss them, but it would be intellectually dishonest to entirely bash them--just as we'd ask the same of those who criticize CF and CFML.
 
Indeed, an important point to keep in mind is that while it's one thing to consider moving from CFML to ASP.NET, it's quite another to consider moving CFML to the .NET framework (which is what BD.NET does). Just as MM helped us see that the move to CFMX was about moving CFML to J2EE as a better platform--and not a move by us as CFML coders to Java as a language, the same thing applies to BD.NET. It's the only way to run CFML on .NET, as the platform. It's not about changing your code to ASP.NET.
 
I don't want to belabor this. And I don't want to leave the impression that I'll jump on any attempt to bash .NET or BD. I realize that people have their preferences and prejudices. Again, I no longer work for New Atlanta, so I'm not here to "sell" it--but despite my move I am still compelled intellectually to make sure the subject is presented accurately. Again, the webcasts I listed earlier will give more detail to those who are interested. Hope that's helpful.
 
/charlie
 

From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shane Farmer
Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 10:13 AM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Subject: [cfaussie] Re: OT: - .NET sucking the life out of me

I use to work for a company that wanted to go down the same road. They were after an upgrade to a Microsoft Gold Partnership and that was one path they investigated. They had an entire hosting side of the business based on MS products so it made $en$e to the boss man.

When they first spoke about it, I was disappointed to find DB.net only to find it still in beta testing :-( It would have made life easier for me as I was told to prepare a migration strategy for the legacy systems.

Like any platform/language, it has strengths and weaknesses when compared to CF but a change of direction like that is one I'm glad I wasn't involved in. Good luck to you if it goes ahead. Maybe you can come out of it with .net under your belt as well as MCSD qualifications (which was the carrot they offered me).

Shane

On 7/4/06, <cfgroupie> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

The company seems to be in bed with MS. So therefore they will do
everything with MS. There is no point introducing another technology.
They would rather spend the money and build it in MS.

If they want to spend the money then let them. I get paid each month if
I program in peanuts. oh ....wait...no I get paid peanuts...thats
right!

Charlie do you ever sleep?!!

Jeremy





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