*yawn*  heard this one before, MS are evil, and something about Vader being
my father or was that a different piece of fiction?

Its the facts. Didn't say there were right, didn't say they were wrong, just
the facts :)



On 2/2/07, Tom Kerr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Scott Barnes wrote:
> > Ok, Let's go to the numbers shall we as this will give hopefully a few
> of
> > you an insight as to why I switched tracks over to MS and kind of kick
> the
> > OSX argument in the butt.
> >
> > (Just the facts mam!)
> >
> > (Fiscal Year ending 2006)
> > HeadCount World Wide: 71,172
> > Net Revenue:  $44.28B (USD)
> > Growth:   11%
> > Net Income:  $12.06B (USD)
> > Growth:   3%
> >
> > Market Share (Source: OneStat.com)
> > Windows:  97.46%
> > Apple OSX:  01.43%
> > Linux:   00.26%
> >
> > - BetaNews.com reported that 22% of Installs of Windows were
> "Non-Genuine"
> > - That means that People are more inclined to commit piracy or become
> > victims of piracy, before they'll touch Apple OSX (which isn't fair, as
> > certain countries have poor economic backgrounds and therefore Piracy is
> > easier and more likely to Occur - until now with Vista).
>
> That's one interpretation.  Another is that Microsoft's monopolistic
> practises have removed choice from the market.
>
> > - Microsoft will only continue to Support Windows XP for 5 years.
>
> And the fact that existing customers are left in the lurch is good
> reason to purchase another of their products?  What's the support period
> for Vista?
>
> > - Windows Vista has a minimum recommended specification (like XP once
> did
> > etc). Which means folks with older machines will eventually need to
> upgrade
> > ( like Windows XP days ).
> > - Given that Upgrades are likely to occur, I wonder what HP, DELL,
> INTEL,
> > Toshiba, ASUS etc are all going to say about that and whether they'll
> > embrace the idea or prefer OSX gets installed?
>
> So businesses should buy-in, because they will be *forced* to purchase
> new hardware.  Maybe I'm being unfair, your rhetorical question is
> rather open-ended.  What *will* HP, Dell, Intel, Toshiba, Asus etc say
> about it?  Surely you're not implying that they'll collude to restrict
> choice in the marketplace?
>
> > - Given that certain versions of Windows Vista has Media Centre
> installed
> > mixed with Sanity Music, Bigpond onDemand, Kodak etc (local based
> > initiatives to start off with), I wonder what places like Harvey Norman
> are
> > doing about this in terms of "Home Entertainment Division" (Especially
> > thinking along the Zune Player track and the per month subscription
> model).
>
> Hang on, this is a bit of a jump.  We're talking about home usage now?
> So home users should upgrade so that they can pay per-month fees for
> something for which they can currently buy a perpetual license.
>
> > - Given that XBOX 360 also integrates quite snuggly with Windows Vista,
> what
> > does that also mean for places like Harvey Norman.
> > - Given that code base is easier to develop to for both PC and XBOX 360
> at
> > the same time, what do Game Developers think of both (could it be fair
> to
> > argue that PC Game scene may also gain a surge in terms of marketshare
> > alongside console).
>
> DirectX is a steaming pile of snot. ;)  It's also currently my only
> reason to run Windows on a desktop.  The Cedega
> [http://www.transgaming.com/] guys seem to be doing a sterling job of
> removing that necessity.  I haven't signed up yet, but the thought of
> Half Life 2 on Linux kinda gives me tingles.  As does removing XP from
> the last of my desktops it's installed on.
>
> > - Given that you will be able to play (certain games of course) XBOX 360
> > against PC Gamer online (Vista) won't that be a compelling arguement
> (I'm a
> > mouse man myself, not a console jokey).
>
> Not really.  As far as I can tell they're trying to use the PC online
> community to kickstart the equivalent for the console.
>
> > So, 5 years ago, Microsoft had around 50,621 employees, they gained
> 20551
> > there after, that and made more money and just released a significant
> > milestone in its profile since the migration from Windows 3.11 to
> Windows
> > 95...
> >
> > Do people still think that OSX is going to sufficate or that large
> > businesses are going to move towards Linux or other.
>
> Do I think that businesses *are* going to move?  No, not all at once.
> Do I think they should?  Absolutely.  More competition in the
> marketplace can only benefit we, the consumers.
>
> > I keep hearing the X-platform argument a lot lately and I keep thinking
> are
> > the numbers I'm seeing different to what the others are seeing? 2% of
> the
> > worlds population is a fair whack of eyeballs don't get me wrong... but
> in
> > contrast to the other piece...
> >
> > That being said, if you companyX have an employee who loses their
> laptops
> > (given laptops are highly visible in most coporations) do you think that
> a
> > 6months or a year from now, DELL are going to sell new laptops with XP
> on
> > it? I'd wager they'd move towards the Vista Pearl heheh.
>
> You're back to saying that "we" should upgrade because we won't be given
> the choice. ;)
>
> > I should mention that maybe the X-Platform plays a role, in that
> > macobserver.com reports that Apple Laptops make up 12% of the "Laptop
> Market
> > Share".
>
> That reminds me, your "market share" figures up top, what segment do
> they represent?  Do they include the small server market, where MS has
> historically been losing ground to both Linux and BSD?
>
> > I love the comics, I think they are funny and I too am a bit confused at
> > times about the pricing of our Products (heh) but realistically, jokes
> > aside, keep it in perspective.
>
> The pricing is but one concern of many. ;)  For example this:
> http://tinyurl.com/2dxnph patent application, which to my eyes seems to
> be describing a way to divide an operating system into non-logical
> chunks, apply some "DRM" magic to prevent circumvention, and sell useful
> features at higher prices.  Useful features such as the ability to run
> "an unlimited number of concurrent applications, up to the capacity of
> the hardware".  Don't we already have that?  Would such a model fly, on
> a level playing field?
>
> --
> Tom Kerr
> tjkerr "at" nextstudio.net
>
> >
>


-- 
Regards,
Scott Barnes
http://www.mossyblog.com

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