I'm sorry to say Darren I read that thread and firstly, I want my 10mins back.
I think you're suffering from too much sceptism and the only valid reason I can think of that would potentially be irrelevant to hosting within Microsoft is that can't be assed moving the meetings or that you're comfortable with the current place (either is perfectly valid and aok). Offer is there, no catch, no soul being sold to the devil as again - for those in the nose bleed seats - "Microsoft means many things to many people" I remember at the Flash Platform User Group you walked up and said "Adobe are coming here so if you need to leave let me know"... Seriously dude, you need to move past this Adobe vs Microsoft crap that you're somehow subscribing too as my metric within Microsoft is anything that touches a browser and pieces that support it. Internet Explorer Microsoft SQL 2005 Wndows 2003./ Server Windows Vista, Windows XP Expression Tools Windows IIS ASP.NET ASP.NET AJAX (PHP Ajax via Codex) Windows Presentation Foundation (WPF) Windows Presentation Everywhere (WPF/e) Sharepoint Office 2007 I could list the rest.. I think you get my point... Many things to many people. Its time you all started to wise up that if you play that game us vs them, you're only limiting your own possibilities. On 3/13/07, Darren Tracey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'd also like to add a little to the CFUGs in Microsoft issue. > I pondered this exact same thing recently myself. > Its an interesting idea that you could hold your CFUG meeting in the > premises of your 'competitor'. > Getting free stuff out of Microsoft is also always nice. > But thats it. There's no other real value add. > We get our catering costs covered by the local Adobe office, we get > sufficient free giveaways from Adobe as well, and we have a very good > venue also provided at no cost. > Apart from being interesting, what do we gain from holding it at > Microsoft? (yes I know this all stemmed from an internet connection > issue, but there are other ways around that) > > The people at Microsoft are _far_ from idiots. They don't do things > for no reason, or even trivial reasons. > People can say all they want that it doesn't matter, and "we're not > idiots, we won't be swayed", but in the end, it does make a > difference, and it doesn't "feel right". > Microsoft are far too keen, so they are obviously seeing it as a non > trivial benefit to them. I'm not seeing any kind of benefit beyond the > trivial that the CFUG gets from the arrangement, and at the end of the > day, they are the competitor. > > As I've said in other lists lately, there are places to go to get info > about Microsoft products and places to go to get info on Adobe > products, and the two should be seperate and distinct things. Everyone > knows where to get info about Microsoft products. The CFUG community > doesn't have to facilitate information flow about competing > technologies. > I have no problem with getting someone from Microsoft in to tell us > about technologies that we want to hear about, but its still our > meeting, and its our call as to what is covered and what is not > covered, and you start to loose that control when you accept > 'incentives' like hosting, etc, from any vendor. > Its a slippery slope, and there may not be any problems with doing it > either, but the trick is to avoid the potential situations where > compromising your aims and objectives becomes possible or is removed > from your control. > The risk is small, but the benefit is even smaller, so its just not > worth taking it, in my mind. > > Thats why we're doing what we're doing. > > Regards > > Darren Tracey > > > > > -- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.mossyblog.com --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
