Hi Angus, Yeah I 'm reading one at the moment written by some of the programmers at Adobe. It's pretty basic good to get a starting point. But Ted Patrick suggested the ActionScript3.0 Cookbook and the one that is Due in April. I have my order in already.
Jeremy On Apr 28, 1:51 pm, "Angus Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ryan your best bet to get a good feel for Flex is Total Training for Adobe > Flex 2: Rich Internet Applications. It's an example flex project from > beginning to end. It doesn't get bogged down in all the class functionality > and covers all the important topics, right up to flex data services. It's > "the" resource for the exam IMO. > > The one I am waiting for at the moment is Programming Flex 2. The sample > chapters are well > written...http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flex/articles/progflex.html. Due in > April 2007. > > Others.. Advanced ActionScript 3 with Design Patterns, ActionScript > 3.0Cookbook > > Cheers > Angus > > On 28/04/07, <cfgroupie> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > Hi Toby, > > > Thanks for you input. I agree I won't give up Flex as I believe it has > > potential but I won't recommend it for major/minor applications. I > > will stick with .NET or ColdFusion. I believe the whole RIA is just > > still too young. > > > I will say this one more time. > > > 1. We had an external consultancy validate code and methodologies > > 2. The deadline wasn't missed. (yet). > > 3. My disappointment was two pronged. > > a.) Although they explain the concepts behind Flex it really only > > scratches the surface. > > b.) The lack of examples. > > > I had a mate of mine warn me who knows flex back to front. > > "Don't do a flex app or your project will fail". It hasn't failed yet > > but I understand what he means now. > > > I truly hope that making Flex Open source will infact increase all > > aspects of its programming. But until then I will stick to what I > > originally stated. > > I have told everyone in my immediate team that we will "not" be doing > > another Flex application until things change. > > > Jeremy. > > > On Apr 28, 12:17 pm, Toby Tremayne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I'd like to weigh in on this too - Jeremy i can understand your > > > difficulties attempting to get your head around flex in so short a > > > time, but there are a couple of points I'd like to make: > > > > 1) All companies are guilty of focusing on what the good Dr Hilliard > > > calls the "Elevator Pitch" - showing the bells and whistles that make > > > things incredibly easy, and not focusing on the long term > > > requirements. But to be totally honest that's no different than > > > allaire/macromedia et al have ever done with CF. Low entry barrier - > > > some things are dead easy to do. That doesn't mean you'll be able to > > > build complex apps in a day. Think about it - we all know it take 2 > > > minutes to use cfquery and cfoutput and write a dynamic page to view > > > data in a db. But none of us assume that means we're going to be > > > able to write enterprise apps integrating with all manner of things > > > and using complex OO frameworks etc in no time. > > > > 2) AS3 is pretty easy to learn in and of itself - but that doesn't > > > mean you're going to know the whole API and all the ins and outs in a > > > week. You can knock up simple little example apps in no time at all, > > > but if you're looking at building anything serious, you need to take > > > the time to understand the event model and asynchronous calls among > > > other things. I don't see this at all as a failing of the language > > > OR of adobe. Anyone who leaps into a new technology for a short > > > fixed deadline based on just the "elevator pitch" is bound to feel pain. > > > > 3) Once you've learned the basic differences and gotten past the web > > > based request/response paradigm, you'll find flex magnificent -and > > > very RAD. There is yet to be a language developed that just lets you > > > say "I want this and this and this and this" and it magically works. > > > > I hope you get the chance to give flex another try. When I first had > > > at it, I was in exactly the same boat as you - and I had trouble > > > shifting paradigms in my thinking. But with the advice of people on > > > the lists and reading the books I'm absolutely loving it now - it's a > > > seriously powerful tool and is going to be very important in the not > > > too distant future I think. Don't be discouraged by the fact that it > > > doesn't happen overnight. > > > > Toby > > > > On 27/04/2007, at 22:38 , <cfgroupie> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Andrew, > > > > > I didn't go into this decision lightly. In fact it wasn't my ultimate > > > > decision at all. I work for a HUGE company in which those decisions > > > > are anaylsed to the endth degree. > > > > And yes in high-end sight we should have done it in HTML/ColdFusion. > > > > > We actually discussed it with a Third party i.e. NOT me. So when is a > > > > good time to start working with the new tools? The only way to fully > > > > learn a language is to get dirty > > > > with it. My issue that I have with Adobe is that they DID not fully > > > > explain the complexity and learning curve that Flex has. The reason I > > > > raised this issue with all of you, is I truly believe > > > > that flex IS not ready for the main stream development environment. > > > > Its close but its just not ready. When I went to WebDU which I have > > > > nicked name FlexDU I spoke to Ted Patrick about the learning > > > > curve of Flex and what I could do to help reduce that learning curve > > > > and even he acknowledged that there is a steep learning curve with > > > > Flex and it is an issue that Adobe has recognized. He said wait for > > > > some more books to come out which should help. So perhaps now that > > > > Flex is open source we will see alot more tutorials and better > > > > resources. > > > > > Jeremy > > > > > On Apr 27, 7:32 pm, "Andrew Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> With a post like this, no wonder people are jumped on:-) > > > > >> Serioulsy, I applaud your atempt but to go into a project without > > > >> knowing > > > >> your tools is dangerous. > > > > >> And like every programming language I have come across, learning > > > >> them have > > > >> been easy. But the surface is always just that a surface, and when > > > >> delving > > > >> deeper it can be harder and CF is no differeent. > > > > >> When you start introducing Coldspring and MG:U or reactor, to name > > > >> a few it > > > >> throws in some very big complexity and Flex is no different. > > > > >> On 4/27/07, <cfgroupie> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > >>> I walked into worked today with everyone around me saying did you > > > >>> hear? Flex has been open- sourced. My imediate thoughts was that's > > > >>> interesting. But honestly it won't make me continue with flex. > > > > ----------------------------------- > > > > Life is poetry, write it in your own words > > > > ----------------------------------- > > > > Toby Tremayne > > > Senior Technical Consultant > > > Lyricist Software > > > 0416 048 090 > > > ICQ: 13107913 > > --http://allthgo.com > Phone: +61 (0) 7 3857 3880 > Mobile: +61 (0) 409 721 701 --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
