Mornin' :)

You can still get to the Enterprise Manager by using the internal JRun
Web Server.

The default 'cfusion' instance is usually on port 8300. Ie:
http://yourserver:8300/CFIDE/Administrator/

HTH

On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 9:36 AM, George Lu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> MrBuzzy,
>
> I've got one question - if you disconnect cfusion from IIS after connecting
> the cluster to IIS how can you manage the cluster and instances using
> cfusion? I understand that you can't access the enterprise manager via the
> instance.
>
> Regards,
> George
>
>
>
> On 28/03/2008, MrBuzzy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > I'd say Pat is bang on the money.
> >
> > George, when you installed CF, you probably chose an IIS configuration.
> >
> > You'll need to run wsconfig.exe - use it to disconnect cfusion from
> > IIS, then use the same tool to connect the cluster to IIS (as Pat
> > said).
> >
> > L8r
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 6:26 PM, Pat Branley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >  Hi George
> > >
> > >  Every coldfusion instance regardless of if wether its in a cluster or
> > >  not will have a HTTP port in the 8300 range. eg. 8300 cfusion, 8301
> > >  instance1 and 8302 instance2. This is the port for the built in web
> > >  server thats part of the coldfusion instance's libraries.
> > >
> > >  when you create a cluster, you need a 3rd party web server like IIS or
> > >  apache to connect to your CF cluster. In this scenario its actually
> > >  the web server connector program (wsconfig) that connects to the
> > >  cluster.
> > >
> > >  I do not beleive you can make the built in web server of a cfusion
> > >  instance serve up pages in a clustered manner they are hard-wired to
> > >  serve up cf pages using their own instance.
> > >
> > >  This is my understanding of the situation. I normally have my servers
> > >  set up so the web server is visible outside the firewall and the the
> > >  two 8300 range web servers are running on each instance behind the
> > >  firewall. This set up lets me monitor if one of the two instances has
> > >  gone down.
> > >
> > >  hth
> > >
> > >  pat
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  On Mar 28, 4:45 pm, Andrew Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >  > George,
> > >  >
> > >  > I am assuming as you really didn't say, and I am no expert at this so
> I am
> > >  > guessing.
> > >  >
> > >  > When you log into the cfide/administrator you can control the
> instances and
> > >  > clustering in there, I assume this is what you are doing and not the
> jrun
> > >  > management console!
> > >  >
> > >  > When you create a new instance this will run from a different port,
> when you
> > >  > cluster I strongly believe that it will share the port for the
> cluster
> > >  > (this is the bit I am not sure on).
> > >  >
> > >  > The clusters that you are trying to do, are they on the same VPS or
> machine?
> > >  > Or are you creating other VPS / servers for this. I strongly
> recommend
> > >  > multiple VPS or machines for clustering, but not critical for
> development
> > >  > though.
> > >  >
> > >  > There is also another mailing list on house of fusion that is
> dedicated to
> > >  > Coldfusion Servers, it might pay to post on there as well. Sorry I am
> not
> > >  > with it, I am only guessing as I have no real experience in
> clustering
> > >  > Coldfusion as yet.
> > >  >
> > >  > Andrew Scott
> > >  > Senior Coldfusion Developer
> > >  > Aegeon Pty. Ltd.www.aegeon.com.au
> > >  > Phone: +613  9015 8628
> > >  > Mobile: 0404 998 273
> > >  >
> > >  > From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf
> > >  > Of George Lu
> > >  > Sent: Friday, 28 March 2008 4:28 PM
> > >  > To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
> > >  > Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CF8 clustering - adding new instance
> > >  >
> > >  > What I try to say is I was intend to create a cluster for
> load-balancing and
> > >  > fail over with default server cfusion. If I create a cluster with
> just
> > >  > instance1 and instance2 which will have different http ports such as
> 8301 Is
> > >  > that mean I need to access my CF app via port 8301 not 80?
> e.g.http://servername:8301/....
> > >  >
> > >
> > > > On 28/03/2008, MrBuzzy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >  >
> > >  > Sorry mate, I'm not completely following you on that one...?
> > >  >
> > >  > I think the answer is yes
> > >  >
> > >  >
> > >  >
> > >
> > > > On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 3:42 PM, George Lu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >  > > Thank you MrBuzzy. So can I still do load balance and fail-over
> with
> > >  > > instance1 and instance2 (cluster)? And can I still use cfusion as
> default
> > >  > > server to access my CF pages?
> > >  >
> > >
> > > > > On 28/03/2008, MrBuzzy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >  >
> > >  > > > Hi George,
> > >  >
> > >  > > > The 'cfusion' instance isn't seen in the Enterprise/Cluster
> Manager.
> > >  >
> > >  > > > You *might* be able to cluster cfusion and instance1 using the
> JRun
> > >  > > > Admin Console, but I wouldn't do it.
> > >  >
> > >  > > > Instead I'd recommend creating another instance (instance2) and
> then
> > >  > > > clustering that with instance1.
> > >  >
> > >  > > > The 'cfusion' instance is cloned to create other instances. So it
> > >  > > > might be a good idea to leave it in it's original state.
> > >  >
> > >  > > > Cheers.
> > >  >
> > >
> > >
> > > > > > On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 2:57 PM, George Lu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > >  > > > > Hi,
> > >  >
> > >  > > > > I've just installed CF8 and want to utilise the multi-server
> > >  > clustering
> > >  > > on
> > >  > > > > the same physical server. In CF Admin Instance Manager, I can
> see
> > >  > there
> > >  > > is a
> > >  > > > > "samples" instance already there but I can't find the default
> instance
> > >  > > > > "cfusion". If I add a new instance (e.g. Instance1) I can add
> > >  > > "Instance1" to
> > >  > > > > a cluster in the Cluster Manager. As I can't find "cfusion"
> instance
> > >  > in
> > >  > > the
> > >  > > > > Cluster Manager, how can I add "cfusion" to the cluster which
> already
> > >  > > have
> > >  > > > > "Instance1" in it?
> > >  >
> > >  > > > > Please help.
> > >  >
> > >  > > > > Regards,
> > >  > > > > George
> > >  >
> > >
> >
> >
> > > >
> >
>

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