Hi Dale

I personally feel that 7pm is too late. 6pm would be too earlier for
some people so I'd go for 6.30. But lets see what others have to say.
Perhaps the best way to get feedback would be to run a survey? The
survey could include questions on Time, Location, Topics, Should we
merge with Flex, Who should supply the beer etc

Cheers
Matthew

On Feb 5, 3:06 pm, "Steve Onnis" <st...@cfcentral.com.au> wrote:
> Matt
>
> Thanks for the feedback.  I don’t think I have been to a meeting that kicked
> off that late.....but anyways...
>
> We will certainly take your feedback on board and appreciate you taking the
> time to write all that....
>
> Steve
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matthew [mailto:matthewbchamb...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, 5 February 2010 2:56 PM
> To: cfaussie
> Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CFUG Melbourne for 2010 (Post CFDrinks 3 Feb)
>
> Hi Peter / Dale
>
> Peter: Thanks for taking over the reins and good luck with running
> CFUG Melbourne. Thanks to Mark for all your efforts in the Melbourne
> (Oz) community.
>
> Not wanting to be negative but Dale has asked for feedback so here's
> mine (hopefully it is constructive). I've only attended a few times
> and the main reason I haven't made the effort to come back is because
> the running of the session was disorganised. On one occasion I turned
> up and no one appeared to know if a session was on (yet it was
> broadcast on this list). Eventually people turned up and finally at 8
> or 8.30 it kicked off and I think we finished at 10 or later. I was a
> new dad at the time and depraved of sleep so didn't absorb a lot that
> late at night.
>
> Don't get me wrong, I appreciate that CFUG is voluntarily run and it
> takes up a lot of time organising meetings however for me to attend
> I'd like to see it run on time, have a clear topic and aim to finish
> on time. So those who came for info get what they're after and the
> rest can hang around for a drink.
>
> As for topics, I'd like to see more advanced topics covered. Even
> beginners can take a lot from an advanced subject. At worst it all
> goes over their head but you'd be surprised how much rings a bell when
> you go learn it on your own.
>
> Subjects I'd love to see covered would be:
> 1. CF Admin / JVM optimisation / tunning
> 2. Crash/timeout/hang diagnosis and repair with FusionReactor/
> SeeFusion/MAT, analysing heap dumps, stack traces etc.
> 3. CF OOP (I'm thinking more architecture then frameworks i.e. “How to
> avoid an anaemic domain model”, writing code to unit tests)
> 4. Software development (version control, bug management, Ant)
>
> As for Flex: it may be a good idea for boosting numbers but if I'm
> completely selfish I'd much rather have advance CF stuff covered.
>
> That's my 2c, I hope it helps.
>
> Cheers
> Matthew
>
> On Feb 4, 4:04 pm, "Dale Fraser" <d...@fraser.id.au> wrote:
> > Good summary Peter,
>
> > I would like to hear from people on this list who either have never attend
> > the user group or rarely attend.
>
> > What would it take to get you to a user group, or why don't you attend.
>
> > Is it location, time, content, other?
>
> > Regards
> > Dale Fraser
>
> >http://dale.fraser.id.auhttp://learncf.comhttp://flexcf.com
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaus...@googlegroups.com] On
> Behalf
>
> > Of Peter Robertson
> > Sent: Thursday, 4 February 2010 3:06 PM
> > To: cfaussie
> > Subject: [cfaussie] CFUG Melbourne for 2010 (Post CFDrinks 3 Feb)
>
> > As planned (9 of us if I can count) gathered last night for CFDrinks
> > at Fad Gallery in Melbourne.
> > Thanks to all who attended and to Rocket Boots for picking up the bar
> > tab.
>
> > By the way, for those of you who missed this piece of news, Mark
> > Mandel has stepped down from co-managing the Melbourne CFUG and I have
> > stepped in to work with Steve Onnis for this year.  Mark, thanks for
> > all your hard work, and we look forward to seeing you as often as
> > you're able to make it to the CFUGs.
>
> > Steve and my roles will be very roughly divided between communication,
> > booking speakers, etc (me) and general logistics and sponsorship
> > (Steve).
>
> > Aside from drinking, we discussed where the Melbourne CFUG might go
> > this year and resolved that there will not be a formal CFUG this
> > month, and that we'll kick off in earnest for March.
> > Other than that, no hard-and-fast decisions were made as we'd like to
> > involve as many of you as possible in shaping the group.
> > Included in the things we tossed around were:
>
> > - VENUE:
> >              Dale on behalf of Cog State once again generously offered
> > their board room.
> >              Cog State will be moving into the CBD later in the year,
> > so this would satisfy centrality.
> >              Would people prefer a room at a bar (provided noise
> > levels, suitable projection, etc could be managed)?
>
> > - SCOPE:
> >              Given the demise of both the Adobe and Flex UGs here in
> > Melbourne, should we provide coverage across the Adobe dev space and
> > incorporate at least Flex?
> >              There was a general feeling that this would bring
> > benefits to both camps.
>
> > - FORMAT:
> >              Various formats were kicked around, including 1 main
> > presentation plus discussion, 2 presentations, 1 main plus 1 small
> > presentation, etc.
> >              Some of us would also like a casual, social opportunity
> > to have a drink and talk afterward.
>
> > - SPEAKERS / TOPICS:
> >              As always, we'll be looking for people prepared to
> > present on a topic of interest.  Please put yourself forward if you'd
> > like to offer.
> >              We'll also be asking you what sorts of topics you'd all
> > like covered.
>
> > Steve Onnis and I will be organising a survey shortly to get a clear
> > handle on what people want.  In the meantime, your input here would be
> > very welcome.
>
> > Cheers
>
> > Peter
>
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