Everyone start getting used to this phrase:

"I develop applications using Adobe based products"

hehe if someone said that as of now i'd roll my eyes and go "what
photoshop and pagemaker? yer..you really *ARE* a developer aren't
you...clown"

its going to be hard to get used to that now, adobe being a big power.



On 4/21/05, grant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I was GAF on the whole buyout when i heard about it. but i've had time
> to percolate on it and now i'm thinking it sucks.
> 
> the allaire/macromedia saga was a fairly good fit for cf developers -
> allaire needed more exposure and macromedia was the perfect company
> for it. mm even took it a few large steps further and made some nice
> advances in cf and the server tier - by introducing flex and flash
> remoting they showed the they were commited to the product. macromedia
> has always been a 'primary point' for web developers - dreamweaver
> ain't that bad and for making 'webpages' it is definately better than
> the competition.
> 
> adobe on the other hand, is nothing like macromedia. adobe started out
> with one really successful mac product. form there they've centered
> around visual media - images, illustrations and movies. their best
> 'web-capable' product is the PDF, and everybody knows how much pdfs
> suck. it's like using paper.
> 
> it's easy to work out that adobe has a lot of capital, and a large
> client base. it's also easy to see that the company is turning stale -
> being out-competed with existing products and no 'oooh' products for
> years. the last time i oooh-ed at an adobe product was when i found
> imageready bundled with ps5. but then i found fireworks and never
> looked back. it's also obvious to see that mm is a rising star - the
> flash player installs alone makes it worth +3bil, imho.
> 
> so what's adobe doing? it appears that they want us, the mm market,
> and that's where my problem lies. have a look at the adobe website and
> then the mm website. the adobe site is generic, staid and aimed at the
> broadest audience possible. the mm website is stylish and caters more
> to the developers than the managers. i took pride in the macromedia
> community. i like being part of a niche industry that knows where it
> stands. i like the uniqueness of macromedia and they way it says, 'we
> are designers, we developers, we are on the edge'. adobe just says,
> 'we are corporate'.
> 
> so is this it? am i to be assimilated into the adobe machine. will the
> racyness of mm disappear into blandsville? will adobe even continue
> with the mm product line - couldn't they   be approaching this in a MS
> way and killing the competition - 'flashpaper? never heard of it?
> dreamweaver? don't you mean goLive?' whatever the result, i'm going to
> be watching these companies closely over the next year or so. i'll
> also be dusting off my java textbooks, as insurance.
> 
> what does everybody think - is this a market grab, a competition
> squash, or strategic maneuver, and where will it lead us?
> 
> G
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