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Why reinvent the wheel when you could use
this one, not CF but java. Regards
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marcantonio John, I guess what you’re
proposing could be acquired with an adoption of the WSRP standard (FAqs at: http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/11774/wsrp-faq-draft-0.30.html#portlet),
or maybe something
similar to the JSR168 spec (http://www.jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=168).
There is even an
authentication standard XML schema,SAML ( http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/security/faq.php
). Since CF is very very
very straightforward, we don’t usually adopt standards. This really turns
against us in the end. Some time ago I had to
develop a simple example on CF and Semantic web and found out that there was no
example on how to do it. I found this article from
some German researches where they say “We
didn't find toolkits for ActionScript and ColdFusion yet. Is there no Semantic
Web support for these languages?”: http://www.wiwiss.fu-berlin.de/suhl/bizer/toolkits/
, its sad to see that CF simply gets out of the market because what we do
can’t be reused or applied elsewhere. Maybe is time for the CF
community start defining our own standards, even using the above standards
fully or just as directions on how to start. Defining our own
standards would be simply and we could do it as anything in CF: simple and
direct. Adopting an already
existing standard would place our apps in a more broad audience, using an WSRP
standard, for a while, would allow a CF app to
be consumed by any web portal engine that supports this standard, like IBM,
Bea, Plumtree. Anyway there are pros and
cons in any way we decide. Frameworks like Mach-ii,FB,
MG or ColdSpring could have plugins that would allow a developer to easily drop
a blog inside his app, using common authentication and rendering presentation
methods. Sure the more difficult
would be to WRITE the standards in the first place, then get the community to
USE them, and I can see a number of different ways on how to define common
presentation layers, maybe using a Flex-like
XML language could do the work (again, Oasis has a UIXML: http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/tc_home.php?wg_abbrev=uiml).
This would certainly get
us, the CF community, stronger, getting the “interoperability of CF
apps” to work. Regards, Marcantonio Silva From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Farrar This is exactly why
(different gains and losses to each approach) my desire is to see a set of
common API standards to allow applications to be built by multiple developers
and integrated into a common system. There are two major areas that are needed
above the rest.
I am not saying that only
one system can do this, for certainly this could be done in FB, Machii and
others. Yet the lack of these standards existing has prevented the code reuse
on an application level. Currently the extent of code reuse that is robustly
integrated is on a CFC level, web services or reusing single files within a
site. There are some other examples of code reuse… but for the most part
you can’t get a blog, calendar or other application from an external
source that integrates with your application because there isn’t a common
standard to handle these issues with the more popular methodologies. For all
the benefits they bring to the table the lack of application reuse or
distribution is a tradeoff that small business in particular cannot usually
afford. The same would also be true for departmental applications inside a
corporation. The budget just isn’t there to write all the apps they need
to have an effective site… and it isn’t going to happen until we
catch on to this concept. (Note: These two items are fundamental to building
applications for any operating system; windows, linux, etc. To continue to
build applications without these standards is like focusing our efforts on the
DOS ages and forgetting how much window based OS’s with common system authentication
have advanced computer usage.) </rant> John Farrar From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of All, I downloaded a copy of
Blog CFC from Ray. What I want to do with it is put it under my existing
application name (nothing fancy) and allow any user already logged in to act as
an admin on the blog. I want to allow them to post and comment showing their
name on their posts. I’m afraid to
mess with some of the code I’m looking at. Has anyone that can give me a
few quick pointers done this already? *******
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