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Given that we are having two different projects at first let us create the 
path-sensitive error-catching + false positive suppression + design of the CERT 
rules, and when we are fine, we get back to the impossible-to-solve problem: to 
adjust fix-its (path-sensitively).

I have not seen I am creating two different projects, because in my mind the 
Analyzer would be useless if it would be an expensive `grep`, so umm, sorry.



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Comment at: clang/lib/StaticAnalyzer/Checkers/cert/StrChecker.cpp:201-207
+void CERTStrChecker::evalGets(const CallEvent &Call, const CallContext &CallC,
+                              CheckerContext &C) const {
+  unsigned DestPos = *CallC.DestinationPos;
+  const Expr *DestArg = Call.getArgExpr(DestPos)->IgnoreImpCasts();
+  SVal DestV = Call.getArgSVal(DestPos);
+
+  auto Report = getReport(*BT, Call, CallC, C);
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NoQ wrote:
> Charusso wrote:
> > Charusso wrote:
> > > NoQ wrote:
> > > > NoQ wrote:
> > > > > All right, so basically what you're saying is that literally every 
> > > > > invocation of `gets()` deserves a warning. This means that for all 
> > > > > practical purposes your checker //is// an AST-based checker, just 
> > > > > implemented with path-sensitive callbacks. A path-sensitive checker 
> > > > > emits warnings based on multiple events that happen sequentially 
> > > > > along the path (use-after-free: "memory deallocated - that same 
> > > > > memory used", division by zero: "value constrained to zero - 
> > > > > something is being divided by that same value", etc.) but your 
> > > > > checker emits the warning by looking at only one statement: "`gets()` 
> > > > > is invoked".
> > > > > 
> > > > > Do i understand correctly that your plan is to use path-sensitive 
> > > > > analysis for fixits only? But you can't emit fixits for any truly 
> > > > > path-sensitive warning anyway. Fixits must work correctly on all 
> > > > > execution paths, so you cannot emit a correct fixit by looking at 
> > > > > only one execution path. In order to emit fixits, you need to either 
> > > > > resort to a pure AST check anyway ("this expression refers to an 
> > > > > array of fixed size"), or maybe implement auxiliary data-flow 
> > > > > analysis for a certain must-problem (eg., "the buffer argument may 
> > > > > have exactly one possible value across all paths that reach 
> > > > > `gets()`"). But in both cases the path-sensitive engine does 
> > > > > literally nothing to help you; all the data that you'll need for your 
> > > > > fixit will be available from the AST.
> > > > Like, i think this was an interesting investigation and i was genuinely 
> > > > curious about how this turns out to be, but for now it seems that the 
> > > > problem you're trying to solve cannot be solved this way. Path 
> > > > sensitive analysis is fundamentally applicable to only 50% of the 
> > > > problems (to "may-problems" but not to "must-problems"), and the 
> > > > problem you're trying to solve is in the latter category. I believe 
> > > > you'll have to fall back to the relatively boring task of adding fixits 
> > > > to `security.insecureAPI.gets`; but then, again, if you manage to 
> > > > employ use-def chains for this problem, that might be quite an 
> > > > inspiring start.
> > > Most of the time the given allocation to hold the arbitrary string 
> > > happens in a local scope. After that we see `fscanf(dst)`, `gets(dst)`, 
> > > `memcpy(dst)`, `strncpy(dst)`, stuff... which pushes new data into that 
> > > memory block, and then the cool developers write that down: `dst[42] = 
> > > '\0'` which means all the reports should be thrown away in a 
> > > path-sensitive manner on `dst`. Reallocations, re-bindings, non-AST stuff 
> > > could handled very easily with the non-AST checker, like that one.
> > > 
> > > Sometimes we are work with destination-array like 
> > > `memcpy(Foo[Bar.Baz]->Qux, ...)` which could not really handled with just 
> > > a simple AST-based checker. I could not say at the moment we could handle 
> > > it with symbols, but we have a much larger scope of information by 
> > > symbols.
> > > 
> > > Most of the time because of the Analyzer is much smarter than the Tidy we 
> > > could emit fix-its with the help of flow-sensitiveness very easily. I 
> > > would create huge white-lists what we want to fix-it, and what we could 
> > > not, but at some point if we model the symbols better, we can.
> > > 
> > > Other than that easy false-positive suppression and tiny flow-sensitive 
> > > rebinding stuff, we could be sure what is going on by each 
> > > string-manipulation. The `gets()` is a toy example where at most a `grep 
> > > -rn 'gets('` could do better analysis than us.
> > > 
> > > The real world looks like that:
> > > ```
> > > 1 encryptedpasswordlen = ((strlen(passwd) + RADIUS_VECTOR_LENGTH - 1)
> > >   / RADIUS_VECTOR_LENGTH) * RADIUS_VECTOR_LENGTH;
> > > 2 cryptvector = palloc(strlen(secret) + RADIUS_VECTOR_LENGTH);
> > > 3 memcpy(cryptvector, secret, strlen(secret));
> > > ...
> > > 4 for (i = 0; i < encryptedpasswordlen; i += RADIUS_VECTOR_LENGTH) {
> > > 5   memcpy(cryptvector + strlen(secret), md5trailer, 
> > > RADIUS_VECTOR_LENGTH);
> > > ...
> > > ```
> > > - from `postgresql/src/backend/libpq/auth.c`
> > > 
> > > At `3` we would emit a warning, because the null-termination left by the 
> > > wrong size of the string, but at `5` we see that, it left, because at 
> > > that offset the string continues, and dunno, on `6` when we model every 
> > > flow-sensitive information, the string left non-terminated.
> > > 
> > > Of course each of that stuff is local and AST-based (with huge overhead 
> > > of rebindings and impossible false-positive suppression), but when you 
> > > have two of it, that is when the fun begins.
> > > if you manage to employ use-def chains for this problem, that might be 
> > > quite an inspiring start.
> > 
> > We have regions so we do not need to rely on such chains in the AST-world, 
> > if I get your idea right by the "Use-define chain" wiki [1]. Btw. it is not 
> > that difficult problem in the AST-world, you need to create a recursive 
> > AST-matcher on the `DeclRefExpr` with `std::function`.
> > 
> > Basically, I want to implement all the STR rules in a logical order, here 
> > is one of the examples from STR32-C [2] which is my last planned project at 
> > the moment:
> > 
> > ```
> > void lessen_memory_usage(void) {
> >   wchar_t *temp;
> >   size_t temp_size;
> >  
> >   /* ... */
> >  
> >   if (cur_msg != NULL) {
> >     temp_size = cur_msg_size / 2 + 1;
> >     temp = realloc(cur_msg, temp_size * sizeof(wchar_t));
> >     /* temp &and cur_msg may no longer be null-terminated */
> >     if (temp == NULL) {
> >       /* Handle error */
> >     }
> >  
> >     cur_msg = temp;
> >     cur_msg_size = temp_size;
> >     cur_msg_len = wcslen(cur_msg);
> >   }
> > }
> > ```
> > 
> > They really want to represent the wild, and please think of that problem in 
> > terms of an AST-checker versus in terms of `getAsRegion` and 
> > `getDynamicElementCount` to compare the size of the allocated memory block 
> > and inject that: `cur_msg[temp_size - 1] = L'\0';` because the array would 
> > overflow. How cool is the Analyzer and how smart to do so.
> > 
> > It would took at most 10 minutes to implement if the `evalBinOp` would work 
> > or the main 10 years old implementation of obtaining the element-count 
> > would work. I am on the way to fixing the latter, but it will be more 
> > path-sensitive info, than you could imagine, like reusing the "zombie" 
> > size-expression turned out to be a hard problem. And it will be a lot 
> > easier to solve such problems, I believe.
> > 
> > The local scope is the key, and that checker at the moment only tries to 
> > rewrite destination-arrays which are local. I think we could see if we emit 
> > multiple reports on a given call so due to ambiguity we would drop such 
> > fix-its. With an AST checker I could not imagine how difficult it would be.
> > 
> > It is rather a research at the moment, because I have encountered dozens of 
> > silly stuff, beginning with the `getExtent()`, so I cannot say this 
> > direction is the 100% future, but I have picked the Analyzer over Tidy, for 
> > that reason, it is smarter.
> > 
> > [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Use-define_chain
> > [2] 
> > https://wiki.sei.cmu.edu/confluence/display/c/STR32-C.+Do+not+pass+a+non-null-terminated+character+sequence+to+a+library+function+that+expects+a+string
> > It would took at most 10 minutes to implement if the `evalBinOp` would work 
> > or the main 10 years old implementation of obtaining the element-count 
> > would work.
> 
> You have multiple different checkers that you want to implement and for each 
> of them there are two parts of the problem:
> (1) Emit the warning,
> (2) Emit a fixit for that warning.
> 
> Path-sensitive analysis is perfect for (1), at least for some checkers (not 
> for the one in this patch).
> 
> But if you try to rely on path-sensitive analysis for (2), your result will 
> simply be incorrect for the reason stated above: there may be other execution 
> paths that you haven't taken into account. And when you say
> 
> > I would create huge white-lists what we want to fix-it
> 
> , this literally means repeating a lot of the work you did in D45050, as you 
> have to write down matchers (or a CFG-based data flow analysis) for the cases 
> that you really can fix. At this point you will not only be aware of the 
> allocation site from which you can extract the size-expression, but also of 
> all other possible allocation sites.
> 
> So i honestly believe that you should drop the idea of using path sensitive 
> analysis to help you with fixits, and instead focus on the two 
> more-or-less-independent tasks of (a) developing path-sensitive checkers for 
> the CERT problems you're interested in and (b) developing fixits for such 
> checkers in a syntactic manner without relying on the information obtained 
> via the path-sensitive analysis.
>> It would took at most 10 minutes to implement if the evalBinOp would work or 
>> the main 10 years old implementation of obtaining the element-count would 
>> work.
> 
> You have multiple different checkers that you want to implement and for each 
> of them there are two parts of the problem:
> (1) Emit the warning,
> (2) Emit a fixit for that warning.
This string-handling misuse of the language C consists of thousands of entries 
across random open source projects, that is why I would like to suggest 
fix-its. With the help of path-sensitive stuff I would like prove the fix-its 
are being fine.

> Path-sensitive analysis is perfect for (1), at least for some checkers (not 
> for the one in this patch).
> 
> But if you try to rely on path-sensitive analysis for (2), your result will 
> simply be incorrect for the reason stated above: there may be other execution 
> paths that you haven't taken into account.
I know that the path-sensitive analysis means that: "There is a path". But I 
also know that there is one single function body where the `(allocation, string 
manipulation, return data)` triplet takes place. Here we should take every of 
the execution paths because we are in a local scope. We could be 100% sure when 
the obtained size-expression's region is not safe to reuse. I do not think 
about function-boundaries because the peoples write code like that triplet. 
Sometimes the size-expression is coming from a function-call, but that should 
be fine to obtain.

> And when you say
> 
>> I would create huge white-lists what we want to fix-it
> 
> , this literally means repeating a lot of the work you did in D45050, as you 
> have to write down matchers (or a CFG-based data flow analysis) for the cases 
> that you really can fix. At this point you will not only be aware of the 
> allocation site from which you can extract the size-expression, but also of 
> all other possible allocation sites.
There is one allocation site 99,99% of the time, where the 0,01% is your 
counter example in this review. Of course there must be such case in the wild, 
somewhere, deep in the woods, and of course the most error-prone case is the 
0,01%, but the other 99,99% has the same issue, and we could provide fix-its 
easily if we do not focus mostly on the 0,01%. I want to make my stuff 
non-alpha, even none of the non-alpha checkers or not the Tidy can provide 100% 
accuracy, that stuff with fix-its should be 100% accurate. So in case of the 
0,01% we detect it and we do not fix-it, that is it. And we are hoping someone 
creates summary-based analysis, so that we can rewrite the 0,01% as well.

> So i honestly believe that you should drop the idea of using path sensitive 
> analysis to help you with fixits, and instead focus on the two 
> more-or-less-independent tasks of (a) developing path-sensitive checkers for 
> the CERT problems you're interested in and (b) developing fixits for such 
> checkers in a syntactic manner without relying on the information obtained 
> via the path-sensitive analysis.

Plot twist: nor the AST-checkers and nor the path-sensitive-checkers could 
solve this issue. You cannot state out that my approach is bad, so I should 
change it. I cannot state out my approach is good, so we should go for it.

I believe in that when I dropped my Tidy-career then I have picked the right 
tool which I can improve to create 100% accuracy and model the 
impossible-to-model stuffs, like that STR rules. Of course, in a path-sensitive 
manner, to drop every heuristic, to model everything which necessary with 
offsets and allocations, and for false positive suppression. The key here, to 
modify the Analyzer from that statement "There is a path" to "There is only a 
path", according to the use-case of the string manipulation being a single path.


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