rsmith added inline comments.

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Comment at: clang/include/clang/Basic/DiagnosticGroups.td:269
+def CXXPre2BCompatPedantic :
+  DiagGroup<"c++98-c++11-c++14-c++17-c++20-compat-pedantic", [CXXPre2BCompat]>;
 
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rjmccall wrote:
> rsmith wrote:
> > rjmccall wrote:
> > > Quuxplusone wrote:
> > > > aaron.ballman wrote:
> > > > > rjmccall wrote:
> > > > > > Uh, I think we're a couple standard releases past the point at 
> > > > > > which we should have reconsidered this schema.  I guess the problem 
> > > > > > is that we can't say `-Wpre-c++23-compat` without jumping the gun.  
> > > > > > Is there a problem with `-Wc++20-compat` and then having the 
> > > > > > earlier warning groups imply the later ones?  That seems to be what 
> > > > > > we do with `-Wc++98-compat`; did we abandon that approach 
> > > > > > intentionally?
> > > > > @rsmith may have more background here. I was following the pattern 
> > > > > already in the file, but I tend to agree that this pattern is not 
> > > > > leading us somewhere good. FWIW, I ran into a similar situation with 
> > > > > this on the C side of things in D95396, so we should probably be 
> > > > > consistent there too.
> > > > My understanding is that the //command-line user// is expected to pass
> > > > - `clang++ -std=c++20 -Wc++11-compat` to indicate "I want //actually// 
> > > > to compile in C++20 mode, but give me warnings about anything that 
> > > > would prevent compiling in C++11 mode"
> > > > - `clang++ -std=c++17 -Wc++14-compat` to indicate "I want //actually// 
> > > > to compile in C++17 mode, but give me warnings about anything that 
> > > > would prevent compiling in C++14 mode"
> > > > - `clang++ -std=c++14 -Wc++20-compat` to indicate "I want //actually// 
> > > > to compile in C++14 mode, but give me warnings about anything that 
> > > > would prevent compiling in C++20 mode" — EXCEPT that I think this is 
> > > > not supported. My impression is that forward-compatibility warnings are 
> > > > generally just rolled into `-Wall` and not handled separately beyond 
> > > > that?
> > > > 
> > > > I don't think any human user is expected to pass 
> > > > `-Wc++98-c++11-c++14-c++17-c++20-compat` by hand; it's just an internal 
> > > > name for a particular subset of `-Wc++98-compat`.
> > > > 
> > > > IOW, we could choose a new naming scheme for it, but that would be a 
> > > > purely internal change that won't affect how command-line users 
> > > > interact with Clang at all (for better and for worse).
> > > Diagnostic groups can both directly contain diagnostics and imply other 
> > > diagnostic groups, so I don't think there's any reason to make a 
> > > dedicated group just to contain the new diagnostics in e.g. 
> > > `-Wc++14-compat` except to allow someone turn on those warnings 
> > > separately.  And it does show up to users as the warning group under 
> > > `-fdiagnostics-show-option` (which is the default).
> > @Quuxplusone's comment describes the intent. `-std=c++20 -Wc++14-compat` 
> > should give a more or less complete list of reasons why the code would not 
> > compile in C++14 (at least on the language side; we don't check for stdlib 
> > compatibility). The other direction -- `-std=c++11 -Wc++14-compat` -- is 
> > more of a best-effort check for things that we've seen cause problems in 
> > practice and can easily detect. (As a consequence, I don't think there's 
> > any subset/superset relation between `-Wc++X-compat` and `-Wc++Y-compat`.)
> > 
> > I'd be happy to see these groups renamed to `-Wpre-c++20-compat` or 
> > similar. Warning group synonyms are relatively cheap, so I wouldn't be 
> > worried about adding a `-Wpre-c++2b-compat` now and renaming it to 
> > `-Wpre-c++23-compat` flag later.
> > 
> > (As an aside, it'd be handy if there were some way to mark a `DiagGroup` as 
> > existing only for grouping purposes, so that we could avoid exposing a `-W` 
> > flag for cases where groups are added for internal reasons.)
> Okay.  It looks like `-Wc++X-compat` is consistently (1) all the 
> this-feature-used-not-to-exist diagnostics from C++X and later plus (2) 
> warnings about deprecation and semantic changes introduced by exactly version 
> X.  This seems like an unfortunate pairing, basically caused by the option 
> names not being very clear about what kind of compatibility they mean.  If we 
> want @Quuxplusone's interpretation, which I agree is a natural human 
> interpretation of those command lines, we'll need special support for it in 
> diagnostic-option handling, so that we include specific diagnostics based on 
> the relationship between the option and the language version.
> 
> There is a natural subset relationship between the 
> this-feature-used-not-to-exist groups; we're just not taking advantage of it 
> at all.
(2) sounds like a bug. Maybe we should add `CXXPostXYCompat` groups, symmetric 
to the `CXXPreXYCompat` groups, to better handle that?

I'm not sure about the need for special support in diagnostic option handling 
-- we don't ever produce a "you're using a feature that wasn't in an older 
standard mode" warning unless we're in the newer mode, and we don't ever 
produce a "you're using a feature that will change / go away in a newer 
standard mode" warning unless we're in the older mode.

I think it'd be reasonable to take advantage of the subset relationships. Back 
when there were only a couple of C++ language standards we cared about, the 
difference between linear and quadratic growth didn't really matter, but we're 
past that point now.


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