aaron.ballman added a reviewer: clang-vendors.
aaron.ballman added a subscriber: andrew.w.kaylor.
aaron.ballman added a comment.

Adding clang-vendors for awareness as this has the potential to impact folks 
vending clang.

In D134468#3811882 <https://reviews.llvm.org/D134468#3811882>, @probinson wrote:

> These kinds of compatibility changes generally should get a Discourse post 
> for better visibility.

Strong +1, this needs a community RFC to see if we have folks relying on this 
support. For example, Intel supports ICX as a drop-in replacement for cl, and 
I'm not certain what our MSVC compatibility requirements are (I'm trying to 
find out though; CC @andrew.w.kaylor 
for awareness).

In D134468#3810030 <https://reviews.llvm.org/D134468#3810030>, @hans wrote:

> I'm conflicted about this. I see where you're coming from, but I could 
> imagine people using clang-cl with old VS versions e.g. to target old 
> Windows. I agree we shouldn't go out of our way to support that, but do we 
> think it's too much effort to keep the functionality we have (as defined by 
> the lit tests) working?

I'm also conflicted -- what's the pain point we're trying to solve with these 
changes? It doesn't seem like maintenance is an actual burden in practice.

In D134468#3809713 <https://reviews.llvm.org/D134468#3809713>, @rnk wrote:

> If we do this, I'd like it to be a policy change. We should add a release 
> note about dropping support for `-fmsc-version=N` for N<1900, and audit for 
> other logic like this:
> https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project/blob/main/clang/lib/Sema/SemaDeclCXX.cpp#L6390

Do we have a policy written down anywhere for this? We have one for what 
versions of MSVC we'll support building LLVM with, but I don't think we have a 
policy for what versions of MSVC we'll support being compatible with. Given 
that we still have GCC compatibility hacks for GCC 4.2 (which we still report 
we emulate with the GNU version macros!) which came out in 2008, I'd like more 
motivation as for why we want to drop support for MSVC 2013 and a better 
understanding of how we decide when we no longer will support compatibility 
with an older compiler -- we should be able to communicate this to users so 
their expectations are set appropriately.


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